[nobe-l] Descriptive Audio Blu Rae/DVDs website info RE: MoPix and WGBH websites RE: How AMC Stole Christmas

Danielle Ledet singingmywayin at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 03:12:17 UTC 2015


Thank you!

On 12/30/15, Alvin via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Danielle and list,
>
> I'm not sure how to get that part of the website to work either. Try
> contacting the website administrator.
>
> I have also placed some more info that you and the other list members might
> find helpful.
> It's a list of Blu rae/DVDs with audio description on them.
> According to the info on the website, the site is updated each
> Tuesday/Wednesday listing the latest DVDs with audio description on them.
>
> the website is below.
>
> Alphabetical Listing of All USA Commercial DVDs and Blu-ray Discs with Audio
> Description
>
> web address is:
> http://www.acb.org/adp/dvdsalpha.html?utm_content=buffere4a6d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
>
> God bless and everyone have a grand, exciting, and prosperous New Year!
>
> Alvin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet
> via NOBE-L
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:46 AM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Cc: Danielle Ledet
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] MoPix and WGBH websites RE: How AMC Stole Christmas
>
> Well thank you. When I tried to click on theaters nad showtimes it still
> took em to Cation Fish however for the deaf. I am not deaf!
> Maybe osme magical button will be pressed and things will work right nad
> sensible.
>
> On 12/28/15, Alvin via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just wanted to share this bit of info with you all in regards to the
>> descriptive video services.
>>
>> I'm not sure about these services in other parts of the world, but
>> these websites should get you started in the U.S.
>>
>> Read below for more.
>>
>>
>>
>> This first website should let you know which theaters have the
>> descriptive video services available in your area.
>>
>>
>>
>> MoPix® Motion Picture Access
>>
>>
>>
>> web address is:
>>
>> http://ncam.wgbh.org/mopix/
>>
>>
>>
>> this next web address has some general info on the company that
>> supposedly started the descriptive video service. (WGBH)
>>
>>
>>
>> WGBH ACCESS SERVICES
>>
>>
>>
>> web address is:
>>
>> http://www.wgbh.org/about/disabilityservices.cfm
>>
>>
>>
>> WGBH's Media Access Group makes media accessible to all.
>>
>> For more than 40 years, the Media Access Group at WGBH has been
>> providing accessible media services to the 36 million Americans who
>> are deaf, hard of hearing, blind, or visually impaired.
>>
>> We invented captioning and video descriptions for television, and
>> today we apply those services to movies, the web, museums, theme
>> parks, and more. Our partner, the Carl and Ruth Shapiro Family
>> National Center for Accessible Media (NCAM), continues to work on new
>> media access breakthroughs that build on WGBH’s history.
>>
>>
>>
>> God bless and I pray you all have a very blessed and prosperous 2016.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alvin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>> Shives via NOBE-L
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:42 AM
>> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
>> Cc: Danielle Shives
>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] How AMC Stole Christmas
>>
>>
>>
>> Danielle,
>>
>> Many theaters now offer audio description, especially the bigger
>> chains, but not all of them do. I wouldn't know if your local theater
>> has it or not. If they have a website, it might say so on there.
>> Otherwise you can call the theater and ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- nobe-l at nfbnet.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Danielle Ledet via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] How AMC Stole Christmas
>>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 04:22:37 -0600
>>
>>
>>
>> So how do I know which theaters offer audio description? Do they all
>>
>> do it? We have a theater here and all I know is it's called the Grand
>>
>> 10, and don't know if this is an option. I might actually enjoy Star
>>
>> Wars and more action films if this were the case. My children used to
>>
>> sit beside me and tell me what was happening but that isn't available
>>
>> to me anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/27/15, Arthur Jacobs via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Regal developed its own DV equipment and the corporate accessibility
>>> office
>>
>>> handles it. Btw, all show times should be described, if that movie
>>> features
>>
>>> DV. This availability is based on the production company that made
>>> it. All
>>
>>> movies from the production companies Regal/AMC is working with for DV.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Arthur Jacobs
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Greg Aikens via NOBE-L
>>>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> So glad this worked out for you.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I just wanted to chime in and say that I have also had this happen
>>>> to me a
>>
>>>> frustratingly large number of times. What I have started doing
>>>> before the
>>
>>>> movie is asking 2 and 3 times if they are sure it is set for
>>>> description
>>
>>>> and not hearing amplification. Sometimes they get a little annoyed
>>>> but
>>
>>>> then I explain how often it is not correct and how I and a friend
>>>> have to
>>
>>>> miss the first 15 minutes of a movie getting it right. I have been
>>
>>>> pleasantly surprised that the last several times I have gone the
>>>> headset
>>
>>>> has been set up correctly. However, last night when I went to see
>>>> Star
>>
>>>> Wars with my family, I asked 2 times just to make sure and it still
>>>> did
>>
>>>> not work. Very frustrating.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I have not heard that there is something visual that indicates
>>>> whether the
>>
>>>> headset is set for hearing or vision. I wonder if that is a Regal
>>>> thing or
>>
>>>> all the headsets are like that.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I just wish there was a way to test if the headsets are set on the
>>>> correct
>>
>>>> channel before the movie starts, like a repeating message that says,
>>>> “You
>>
>>>> are in theater 6 and listening to the described audio track. Your
>>>> show
>>
>>>> will start shortly.” That would be so helpful in detecting errors
>>>> before
>>
>>>> the show begins.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I wonder who we could share feedback with about the system? It
>>>> doesn’t
>>
>>>> seem like something a local branch of a theater could change.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Best,
>>
>>>> Greg
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Sharon Dudley via NOBE-L
>>>>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> We took the advice of some of the people who responded to this, and
>>
>>>>> called
>>
>>>>> ahead to the local Cinemark. We got a manager who not only assured
>>>>> us
>>
>>>>> that
>>
>>>>> she understood the request, but who agreed to sit beside us when
>>>>> the
>>
>>>>> movie
>>
>>>>> came on and make sure it was working correctly. We got to see the
>>>>> movie
>>
>>>>> because people were willing to listen, and because employees had
>>>>> been
>>
>>>>> trained in providing these services.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> Thank you everyone for your help. I am happy I live in an age when
>>>>> this
>>
>>>>> technology is available, and happier to live in an age when there
>>>>> are
>>
>>>>> resources like this list to help us when other steps fail.
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Brian J. Quintana via NOBE-L <
>>
>>>>> nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> I definitely can sympathize with your frustration about this matter.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> I go to the movies at least once a week. When I first started
>>>>>> going, the
>>
>>>>>> same issues happened time and time again. Either the device didn't
>>>>>> work
>>
>>>>>> at
>>
>>>>>> all, or it was set up for the hearing impaired.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Each time, we would return the device, and they would always give
>>>>>> me
>>
>>>>>> guest
>>
>>>>>> passes, so I almost never had to pay for the movie.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Finally, I spoke to the manager directly, explained how this type
>>>>>> of
>>
>>>>>> problem should not happen every time, and I asked her what we
>>>>>> could do
>>
>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>> remedy the situation. I proposed calling ahead of time, tell her
>>>>>> which
>>
>>>>>> movie I planned on attending, and make sure they tested out the
>>>>>> device
>>
>>>>>> before I arrived, letting me know before I arrive whether it
>>>>>> worked, or
>>
>>>>>> did
>>
>>>>>> not.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> As of now, this practice has worked almost flawlessly. She knows
>>>>>> me, and
>>
>>>>>> it seems she has made sure her employees know to set up for the
>>>>>> visually
>>
>>>>>> impaired when I call or e-mail ahead of time.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> By the way, this is a Cinemark chain, and I too have had the same
>>
>>>>>> problems
>>
>>>>>> at AMC, but when I do go to a different theatre than my regular
>>>>>> one, I
>>
>>>>>> still call ahead and make them get it ready before I arrive.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> I recommend you call ahead from now on, or, make the employee come
>>>>>> find
>>
>>>>>> you in the auditorium at the start of the movie to check that the
>>>>>> device
>>
>>>>>> works. This way, if it does not, the employee, not you, or your
>>>>>> husband
>>
>>>>>> has
>>
>>>>>> to leave to get it fixed.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Oh, and also, I try to remember to bring my own headphones. Those
>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>> theatre provide are bulky and have a 20-foot chord that gets in
>>>>>> the way
>>
>>>>>> of
>>
>>>>>> my nachos, candy, and drink.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Brian
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Dudley via NOBE-L" <
>>
>>>>>> nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>>>>> To: "National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List" <
>>
>>>>>> nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>>>>> Cc: "Sharon Dudley" <sharon.a.dudley at gmail.com>
>>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 12:54 PM
>>
>>>>>> Subject: [nobe-l] How AMC Stole Christmas
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> I’ve been in tears over this several times today. My husband and I
>>>>>> are
>>
>>>>>> fans
>>
>>>>>>> of science fiction and fantasy, and for years, we’ve shared this
>>>>>>> hobby
>>
>>>>>>> together. I was a kid when Star Wars came out for the first time,
>>>>>>> and
>>
>>>>>>> I’ve
>>
>>>>>>> always loved the movies.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> For a Christmas surprise, he got us tickets to see the new Star
>>>>>>> Wars
>>
>>>>>>> movie
>>
>>>>>>> at a time when they offered audio description. There were only
>>>>>>> two such
>>
>>>>>>> shows during the day, and the morning showing on Christmas day
>>>>>>> seemed
>>
>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>> be
>>
>>>>>>> the best chance that we could avoid overcrowded theaters and make
>>>>>>> sure
>>
>>>>>>> we
>>
>>>>>>> got the right headset for audio description.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> The introduction of audio description in movie theaters was such
>>>>>>> a
>>
>>>>>>> wonderful advancement, and made me so happy when our local
>>>>>>> theaters
>>
>>>>>>> added
>>
>>>>>>> it to their list of services. I have had terrible anxiety about
>>>>>>> going
>>
>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>> movie theaters ever since I went to see the LAST Star Wars movie:
>>
>>>>>>> Revenge
>>
>>>>>>> of the Sith. My daughter was quietly describing the action on the
>>
>>>>>>> screen,
>>
>>>>>>> and the woman next to her kept tapping her and shushing her. Then
>>>>>>> my
>>
>>>>>>> husband, sitting on my other side, took over describing, and the
>>>>>>> woman
>>
>>>>>>> glared at us, even though it was impossible for her to hear him
>>
>>>>>>> describing.
>>
>>>>>>> After the movie, she yelled at us, and at me in particular, and
>>>>>>> called
>>
>>>>>>> me
>>
>>>>>>> a
>>
>>>>>>> bitch for ruining her movie experience, even after we explained
>>>>>>> that I
>>
>>>>>>> was
>>
>>>>>>> totally blind. She said that if I needed someone to talk to me
>>>>>>> during
>>
>>>>>>> the
>>
>>>>>>> movie, I should just stay home. That experience has stayed with
>>>>>>> me for
>>
>>>>>>> a
>>
>>>>>>> decade and colored my expectations of going out to the movies.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> When we got to AMC, we went straight to a manager, who flagged
>>>>>>> down a
>>
>>>>>>> girl
>>
>>>>>>> working there to give us the headset. We specifically asked if it
>>>>>>> was
>>
>>>>>>> audio
>>
>>>>>>> description, as opposed to enhanced audio for the hearing impaired.
>>>>>>> She
>>
>>>>>>> assured us it was, but that it wouldn’t start working until the
>>>>>>> movie
>>
>>>>>>> started. So we got into the theater and waited.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> I don’t think I need to describe the anticipation we felt, but
>>>>>>> when the
>>
>>>>>>> long-awaited words “A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away…”
>>>>>>> came
>>
>>>>>>> onto
>>
>>>>>>> the screen, the headphones were silent. And with the opening
>>>>>>> crawl of
>>
>>>>>>> words, there was no reading from the headphones. When my husband
>>
>>>>>>> started
>>
>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>> describe things on the screen, I heard sound in the headphones,
>>>>>>> but it
>>
>>>>>>> was
>>
>>>>>>> only amplified sounds of the events on the screen. No
>>>>>>> description. No
>>
>>>>>>> narration.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> We left the theater and angrily complained to management. Yes, we
>>>>>>> got
>>
>>>>>>> our
>>
>>>>>>> money back after it took 20 minutes to explain the situation and
>>>>>>> for
>>
>>>>>>> them
>>
>>>>>>> to realize what they’d done and get the right headset, and then
>>>>>>> they
>>
>>>>>>> offered to let us back in with the right equipment. What good is
>>>>>>> that?
>>
>>>>>>> We’ve missed the whole first part of the movie! There was no
>>>>>>> other
>>
>>>>>>> showing
>>
>>>>>>> with audio description for 7 more hours. We weren’t going to come
>>>>>>> back
>>
>>>>>>> at
>>
>>>>>>> 6pm when our daughter is coming over for dinner with our 2-month
>>>>>>> old
>>
>>>>>>> grandson!
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> This was not the first time this has happened to us. The many
>>>>>>> many
>>
>>>>>>> times
>>
>>>>>>> we’ve tried to go out to a movie, there has not been one single
>>
>>>>>>> instance
>>
>>>>>>> where they gave us the right equipment the first time. And I can
>>>>>>> only
>>
>>>>>>> think
>>
>>>>>>> of two times where we caught their mistake in time to enjoy the
>>>>>>> movie.
>>
>>>>>>> I
>>
>>>>>>> have complained to management each and every time, in at least 3
>>
>>>>>>> different
>>
>>>>>>> theaters in our community. Every time, they have promised to
>>>>>>> train
>>
>>>>>>> their
>>
>>>>>>> employees better in the future. And every time, we get the same
>>
>>>>>>> ignorance
>>
>>>>>>> of disability accommodations.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if anyone else with disabilities has experienced such
>>
>>>>>>> difficulties
>>
>>>>>>> at AMC theaters in particular, or movie theaters in general. What
>>>>>>> do
>>
>>>>>>> you
>>
>>>>>>> do
>>
>>>>>>> and how do you explain to them what you need BEFORE it’s too late
>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>> enjoy
>>
>>>>>>> the movie? This was such a nice surprise from my husband, and it
>>>>>>> turned
>>
>>>>>>> into such a heartbreak on Christmas. We’re going to try again in
>>>>>>> a
>>
>>>>>>> couple
>>
>>>>>>> days, but how does everyone else get past this barrier?
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> Sharon Dudley, NBCT
>>
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