[nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education

Mon Jul 3 02:24:40 UTC 2017

Judy,

I like your advice. If you want to write as a career, you probably should 
have a full time job after college to support yourself. It takes a while to 
build a reputation as an author and make a profit.

Kayla, you never said your major.
In case you have not made up your mind and assuming you do not want to major 
in education, here is my advice.
I say this only on  what little I know of your interests including from the 
nabs-l list.
Taking course work in child development or early education is valuable even 
if you
don't have an education or teaching career.

Toward that end, why not minor in something related to education? You could 
minor in education if they have that minor but most schools don't.
Since you want to write, you should major in something teaching you to write 
and research well. I put research in there because you need this skill as a 
writer.

So, here is what you could do.
You could major in english or communication. You could also major in 
psychology which gives you course work in child and adolescent development. 
Psychology majors typically also study learning theories in their cognitive 
psychology class and they might learn about childhood disorders in abnormal 
psychology.

You could also have a minor if you wanted to.
You could minor in another humanities discipline.
For instance, have a major in english and minor in psychology. Another idea 
is major in communication and minor in psychology.

This would fit you well. You are a people oriented person who likes to 
write. So combine those interests in your studies.
Finally, don't forget you can still work with kids as an assistant; its 
being a paraprofessional. You can do this without a childhood education 
degree.
I changed my major from education. However, I still love teaching people and 
I like helping people.
I do this in my volunteer work since no one has hired me despite my BA 
degree in social sciences and communication.
Part of my volunteering includes helping kids such as this summer when I 
will be at a camp again.
I've also volunteer tutored as an assistive technology trainer when I taught 
jaws at the library.

As I said before, I'll probably have questions about working with kids soon.

Just some ideas.
And, Judy, I really liked your advice. Sometimes we have to take jobs not in 
line with long term goals to get by and pay bills.

Take care,
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Judy Jones via NOBE-L
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:45 PM
To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
Cc: Judy Jones
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education

Writing is admirable and very worthwhile.  Meanwhile, until you start
getting royalties, how do you plan to pay your bills?  We had this
conversation at different points with our daughters.  Career goals are
awesome, and one can make a decent living at writing, but until you get that
momentum, you need what we term "table money."  Finding a way to pay the
monthly bills is your short-term goal.  Your writing would be the long-term
goal.  BTW, keep that long-term goal in your sites as you work on the
short-term.

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kayla James via
NOBE-L
Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 6:06 PM
To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
Cc: Kayla James
Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education

I think I want to be a writer.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 2, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Melissa,
> But there is age discrimination there in addition to blindness
discrimination.
> Are you able to use your degree? If so, in what capacity?
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Melissa R Green via NOBE-L
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:46 AM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Cc: Melissa R Green
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary
> education
>
> I got my second bachelor's at age 42.  I got my first guide dog at age 40.
> Age is just a number.  If I went by age, I would have not done lots of
> things in my life, and that includes school.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Melissa R. Green And Pj
> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle (Shives) Manke via NOBE-L
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:39 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Cc: Danielle (Shives) Manke
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary
> education
>
> Some college programs allow you to get a degree in both Elementary and
> Early Childhood while only doing one program; the one I attended did,
> so that could be something to look into if you can't decide or think
> you could work with children in either age group. As far as the age
> issue, I got my bachelor's degree when I was younger than you but was
> unable to find employment at the time. I just got a master's degree
> which I am hoping will lead to employment, but I will be at least 30
> by the time I begin work in the education field. I have been more
> frustrated at the lack of employment than at being a certain age. Like
> Judy said, people get degrees and/or jobs at different points in life
> for different reasons; I have taken college classes with people much
> older than myself, so don't let that stop you or frustrate you. At
> this point, I look at all of my experiences over the years as helping
> me be who I am and leading me to where I am and, by doing things like
> volunteering and exploring your options, you will have many things to
> look at in the same light that help you get to where you eventually
> end up. Good luck! *smile* Danielle
>
> --- nobe-l at nfbnet.org wrote:
>
> From: Judy Jones via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'"
> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary
> education
> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 14:09:01 -0600
>
> I really don't think it matters when you get your degree, as long as
> you are going after it to meet life's goals.  Many people go after a
> degree once they have raised a family, then start to work, so don't
> feel bummed out about the age.
>
> I'm not sure about this, and others can correct me, but you might have
> more job possibilities with a bachelor's in elementary education.
> However, I am not sure about this, and you may wish to stick with the
> younger ones if that is your preference.  It depends on which age
> range you feel most comfortable working with.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kayla
> James via NOBE-L
> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 1:58 PM
> To: nobe-l at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Kayla James
> Subject: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education
>
>
>
> I am still trying to decide between which bachelors to get. I have it
> in early childhood or elementary education that one. What I wanted to
> know is, why did the kids have afterschool programs? And if you want
> to teach in those after school programs, do you need an elementary
> education degree or early childhood?  Sorry, I meant to say daycare's.
> I also wanted to update everyone on this list. I will be volunteering
> in a Christian school for their summer program. I am very excited.  I
> also intend to write over the summer, but I decided that if I choose
> teaching as a career, I could work with children and still write on
> the side.
> I also wanted to know has anyone gotten their degree later on in life?
> I will be getting mine either at age 27 or 28. Feeling kind of low
> about that.
> Thanks, guys.
>
>
>
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