[nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education

Kayla James christgirl813 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 3 14:26:20 UTC 2017 

I don't know.



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> On Jul 3, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Judy Jones via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Ashley.  Sighted people can always pick up that cashere job
> somewhere, but is harder for blind people to become employed so easily.  So
> we have to be more serious about finding and maintaining our interim jobs to
> use as stepping stones toward the big career goal.
> 
> When young, I held various short-term salary jobs.  One year I worked in a
> small care facility doing tasks that an untrained person could do, such as
> making beds, dusting, folding and storing laundry, etc.  The place was
> small, so I had it figured out the first day.
> 
> Then one summer I worked at the El Paso County courthouse as a clerk typist.
> 
> Then I worked for several years at a summer camp.
> 
> Judy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
> via NOBE-L
> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:25 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Cc: Ashley Bramlett
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education
> 
> Judy,
> 
> I like your advice. If you want to write as a career, you probably should
> have a full time job after college to support yourself. It takes a while to
> build a reputation as an author and make a profit.
> 
> Kayla, you never said your major.
> In case you have not made up your mind and assuming you do not want to major
> in education, here is my advice.
> I say this only on  what little I know of your interests including from the
> nabs-l list.
> Taking course work in child development or early education is valuable even
> if you don't have an education or teaching career.
> 
> Toward that end, why not minor in something related to education? You could
> minor in education if they have that minor but most schools don't.
> Since you want to write, you should major in something teaching you to write
> and research well. I put research in there because you need this skill as a
> writer.
> 
> So, here is what you could do.
> You could major in english or communication. You could also major in
> psychology which gives you course work in child and adolescent development. 
> Psychology majors typically also study learning theories in their cognitive
> psychology class and they might learn about childhood disorders in abnormal
> psychology.
> 
> You could also have a minor if you wanted to.
> You could minor in another humanities discipline.
> For instance, have a major in english and minor in psychology. Another idea
> is major in communication and minor in psychology.
> 
> This would fit you well. You are a people oriented person who likes to
> write. So combine those interests in your studies.
> Finally, don't forget you can still work with kids as an assistant; its
> being a paraprofessional. You can do this without a childhood education
> degree.
> I changed my major from education. However, I still love teaching people and
> I like helping people.
> I do this in my volunteer work since no one has hired me despite my BA
> degree in social sciences and communication.
> Part of my volunteering includes helping kids such as this summer when I
> will be at a camp again.
> I've also volunteer tutored as an assistive technology trainer when I taught
> jaws at the library.
> 
> As I said before, I'll probably have questions about working with kids soon.
> 
> Just some ideas.
> And, Judy, I really liked your advice. Sometimes we have to take jobs not in
> line with long term goals to get by and pay bills.
> 
> Take care,
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Jones via NOBE-L
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:45 PM
> To: 'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'
> Cc: Judy Jones
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education
> 
> Writing is admirable and very worthwhile.  Meanwhile, until you start
> getting royalties, how do you plan to pay your bills?  We had this
> conversation at different points with our daughters.  Career goals are
> awesome, and one can make a decent living at writing, but until you get that
> momentum, you need what we term "table money."  Finding a way to pay the
> monthly bills is your short-term goal.  Your writing would be the long-term
> goal.  BTW, keep that long-term goal in your sites as you work on the
> short-term.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kayla James via
> NOBE-L
> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 6:06 PM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
> Cc: Kayla James
> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education
> 
> I think I want to be a writer.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Ashley Bramlett via NOBE-L 
>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Melissa,
>> But there is age discrimination there in addition to blindness
> discrimination.
>> Are you able to use your degree? If so, in what capacity?
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Melissa R Green via NOBE-L
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 2:46 AM
>> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
>> Cc: Melissa R Green
>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary 
>> education
>> 
>> I got my second bachelor's at age 42.  I got my first guide dog at age 40.
>> Age is just a number.  If I went by age, I would have not done lots of 
>> things in my life, and that includes school.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Melissa R. Green And Pj
>> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle (Shives) Manke via NOBE-L
>> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 4:39 PM
>> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
>> Cc: Danielle (Shives) Manke
>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary 
>> education
>> 
>> Some college programs allow you to get a degree in both Elementary and 
>> Early Childhood while only doing one program; the one I attended did, 
>> so that could be something to look into if you can't decide or think 
>> you could work with children in either age group. As far as the age 
>> issue, I got my bachelor's degree when I was younger than you but was 
>> unable to find employment at the time. I just got a master's degree 
>> which I am hoping will lead to employment, but I will be at least 30 
>> by the time I begin work in the education field. I have been more 
>> frustrated at the lack of employment than at being a certain age. Like 
>> Judy said, people get degrees and/or jobs at different points in life 
>> for different reasons; I have taken college classes with people much 
>> older than myself, so don't let that stop you or frustrate you. At 
>> this point, I look at all of my experiences over the years as helping 
>> me be who I am and leading me to where I am and, by doing things like 
>> volunteering and exploring your options, you will have many things to 
>> look at in the same light that help you get to where you eventually 
>> end up. Good luck! *smile* Danielle
>> 
>> --- nobe-l at nfbnet.org wrote:
>> 
>> From: Judy Jones via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'"
>> <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary 
>> education
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 14:09:01 -0600
>> 
>> I really don't think it matters when you get your degree, as long as 
>> you are going after it to meet life's goals.  Many people go after a 
>> degree once they have raised a family, then start to work, so don't 
>> feel bummed out about the age.
>> 
>> I'm not sure about this, and others can correct me, but you might have 
>> more job possibilities with a bachelor's in elementary education.
>> However, I am not sure about this, and you may wish to stick with the 
>> younger ones if that is your preference.  It depends on which age 
>> range you feel most comfortable working with.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NOBE-L [mailto:nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kayla 
>> James via NOBE-L
>> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 1:58 PM
>> To: nobe-l at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Kayla James
>> Subject: [nobe-l] Early childhood education or elementary education
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am still trying to decide between which bachelors to get. I have it 
>> in early childhood or elementary education that one. What I wanted to 
>> know is, why did the kids have afterschool programs? And if you want 
>> to teach in those after school programs, do you need an elementary 
>> education degree or early childhood?  Sorry, I meant to say daycare's.
>> I also wanted to update everyone on this list. I will be volunteering 
>> in a Christian school for their summer program. I am very excited.  I 
>> also intend to write over the summer, but I decided that if I choose 
>> teaching as a career, I could work with children and still write on 
>> the side.
>> I also wanted to know has anyone gotten their degree later on in life?
>> I will be getting mine either at age 27 or 28. Feeling kind of low 
>> about that.
>> Thanks, guys.
>> 
>> 
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