[NOBE-L] Questions on Teaching

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Hi, Matthew! 
That is awesome! Have you thought about joining our group on Whatsapp? I think your expertise would be great on there as well.

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Hi Jacky and everyone on this thread.

I am just starting out as an English education major. So far, I have taught in small groups of two to four students. Should things normalize sufficiently when fall semester comes around, I will be teaching in another practicum, centered around grammar. In anticipation of this and future teaching opportunities, I would also like to jump on the bandwagon here. I am also available through text, email, or by phone. If you would like to contact me, shoot me an email and we can work out details.
Thank you,
Matthew Robinson
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> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:14:18 -0700
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> Hello everyone,
> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
> 
> Nikki Palm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto. 
>> 
>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>> 
>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Dear Jackie,
>>> 
>>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>>> 
>>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>>> 
>>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>>> 
>>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>>> 
>>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Humberto
>>> 
>>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>>> ? ME
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>> 
>>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>>> 
>>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>>> 
>>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Mikaela
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Tara Abella
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at
>>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not posted
>>> on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to ask. I have
>>> been in two preschool placements and one first grade placement. Most
>>> recently, I was in a third grade placement that was cut short. After
>>> being in these placements, I have more questions about teaching,
>>> especially for those teaching in the general education or inclusive
>>> elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and
>>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student
>>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion
>>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education
>>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become more
>>> discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to talk
>>> with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the phone,
>>> but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to
>>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent
>>> communication, and papers to grade.
>>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in
>>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white or
>>> chalk board?
>>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom
>>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or
>>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have been
>>> playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't seem to be
>>> able to create pretty labels or slides because the picture is either
>>> not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are wrong, or the text
>>> is too big or small. If you don't create all of your own lessons, how
>>> do you access materials sighted peers make or those off of sites such
>>> as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or cut out your own lessons,
>>> such as when creating math games or centers? How, if at all, do you
>>> incorporate dry-erase activities and know students are not playing on
>>> their boards or messing about?
>>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is
>>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and
>>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts or
>>> learning targets/intentions to display?
>>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I
>>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further with
>>> anyone who is willing.
>>> Best,
>>> Jackie Larrauri
>>> 
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> Hello All, my name is David Ticchi; I am a retired blind teacher.  I have taught in a public school at both the middle and high school levels.  You can send me an email with your number and I'll be glad to give you a call.  I hope that I may be helpful.  
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> Cc: Nikki Palm <nikkirae83 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
> 
> Hello everyone,
> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
> 
> Nikki Palm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto. 
>> 
>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>> 
>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Dear Jackie,
>>> 
>>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>>> 
>>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>>> 
>>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>>> 
>>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>>> 
>>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Humberto
>>> 
>>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>>> ? ME
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>> 
>>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>>> 
>>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>>> 
>>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Mikaela
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Tara Abella
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at 
>>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not posted 
>>> on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to ask. I have 
>>> been in two preschool placements and one first grade placement. Most 
>>> recently, I was in a third grade placement that was cut short. After 
>>> being in these placements, I have more questions about teaching, 
>>> especially for those teaching in the general education or inclusive 
>>> elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and 
>>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student 
>>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion 
>>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education 
>>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become 
>>> more discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to 
>>> talk with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the 
>>> phone, but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to 
>>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent 
>>> communication, and papers to grade.
>>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in 
>>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white or 
>>> chalk board?
>>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom 
>>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or 
>>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have been 
>>> playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't seem to 
>>> be able to create pretty labels or slides because the picture is 
>>> either not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are wrong, or 
>>> the text is too big or small. If you don't create all of your own 
>>> lessons, how do you access materials sighted peers make or those off 
>>> of sites such as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or cut out 
>>> your own lessons, such as when creating math games or centers? How, 
>>> if at all, do you incorporate dry-erase activities and know students 
>>> are not playing on their boards or messing about?
>>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is 
>>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and 
>>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts or 
>>> learning targets/intentions to display?
>>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I 
>>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further with 
>>> anyone who is willing.
>>> Best,
>>> Jackie Larrauri
>>> 
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> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:28:58 -0400
> From: Brian Oglesbee <ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com>
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> Hello all. I am totally blind and I?ve been teaching for 16 years I also am the head coach of my high school golf team. Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns you have my email address is below
> 
> 
> ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Nikki Palm via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello everyone,
>> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
>> 
>> Nikki Palm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto. 
>>> 
>>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Dear Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>>>> 
>>>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Humberto
>>>> 
>>>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>>>> ? ME
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>>>> 
>>>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Mikaela
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Tara Abella
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good evening,
>>>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at
>>>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not posted
>>>> on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to ask. I have
>>>> been in two preschool placements and one first grade placement. Most
>>>> recently, I was in a third grade placement that was cut short. After
>>>> being in these placements, I have more questions about teaching,
>>>> especially for those teaching in the general education or inclusive
>>>> elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>>>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and
>>>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student
>>>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion
>>>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education
>>>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become more
>>>> discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to talk
>>>> with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the phone,
>>>> but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>>>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to
>>>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent
>>>> communication, and papers to grade.
>>>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in
>>>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>>>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white or
>>>> chalk board?
>>>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>>>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>>>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom
>>>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or
>>>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have been
>>>> playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't seem to be
>>>> able to create pretty labels or slides because the picture is either
>>>> not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are wrong, or the text
>>>> is too big or small. If you don't create all of your own lessons, how
>>>> do you access materials sighted peers make or those off of sites such
>>>> as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or cut out your own lessons,
>>>> such as when creating math games or centers? How, if at all, do you
>>>> incorporate dry-erase activities and know students are not playing on
>>>> their boards or messing about?
>>>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is
>>>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and
>>>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts or
>>>> learning targets/intentions to display?
>>>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I
>>>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further with
>>>> anyone who is willing.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jackie Larrauri
>>>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:09:04 -0600
> From: Mikaela Stevens <mikaelastevens at gmail.com>
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>    <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
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> Hello Nikki,
> 
> Yes, you may absolutely contact me!
> 
> Kindly,
> Mikaela
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Nikki Palm via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello everyone,
>> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
>> 
>> Nikki Palm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto. 
>>> 
>>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Dear Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>>>> 
>>>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Humberto
>>>> 
>>>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>>>> ? ME
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>>>> 
>>>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Mikaela
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Tara Abella
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good evening,
>>>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at
>>>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not posted
>>>> on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to ask. I have
>>>> been in two preschool placements and one first grade placement. Most
>>>> recently, I was in a third grade placement that was cut short. After
>>>> being in these placements, I have more questions about teaching,
>>>> especially for those teaching in the general education or inclusive
>>>> elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>>>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and
>>>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student
>>>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion
>>>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education
>>>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become more
>>>> discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to talk
>>>> with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the phone,
>>>> but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>>>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to
>>>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent
>>>> communication, and papers to grade.
>>>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in
>>>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>>>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white or
>>>> chalk board?
>>>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>>>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>>>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom
>>>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or
>>>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have been
>>>> playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't seem to be
>>>> able to create pretty labels or slides because the picture is either
>>>> not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are wrong, or the text
>>>> is too big or small. If you don't create all of your own lessons, how
>>>> do you access materials sighted peers make or those off of sites such
>>>> as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or cut out your own lessons,
>>>> such as when creating math games or centers? How, if at all, do you
>>>> incorporate dry-erase activities and know students are not playing on
>>>> their boards or messing about?
>>>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is
>>>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and
>>>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts or
>>>> learning targets/intentions to display?
>>>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I
>>>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further with
>>>> anyone who is willing.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jackie Larrauri
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NOBE-L mailing list
>>>> NOBE-L at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NOBE-L:
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:59:48 -0700
> From: "Shai Wolman" <shai.wolman at gmail.com>
> To: "'National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List'"
>    <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
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> Hello all, 
> I apologize for coming in late on this topic. I too am totally blind and have been a teacher of students with visual impairment for the past three years. I am an itinerant teacher. 
> If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off list and we can chat by email or phone. 
> Thanks. 
> Shai Wolman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L <nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Oglesbee via NOBE-L
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:29 AM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Brian Oglesbee <ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
> 
> Hello all. I am totally blind and I?ve been teaching for 16 years I also am the head coach of my high school golf team. Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns you have my email address is below
> 
> 
> ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Nikki Palm via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello everyone,
>> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
>> 
>> Nikki Palm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto. 
>>> 
>>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Dear Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>>>> 
>>>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Humberto
>>>> 
>>>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>>>> ? ME
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>>>> 
>>>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Mikaela
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Hi Jackie,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Tara Abella
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good evening,
>>>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at 
>>>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not 
>>>> posted on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to 
>>>> ask. I have been in two preschool placements and one first grade 
>>>> placement. Most recently, I was in a third grade placement that was 
>>>> cut short. After being in these placements, I have more questions 
>>>> about teaching, especially for those teaching in the general 
>>>> education or inclusive elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>>>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and 
>>>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student 
>>>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion 
>>>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education 
>>>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become 
>>>> more discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to 
>>>> talk with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the 
>>>> phone, but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>>>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to 
>>>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent 
>>>> communication, and papers to grade.
>>>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in 
>>>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>>>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white 
>>>> or chalk board?
>>>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>>>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>>>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom 
>>>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or 
>>>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have 
>>>> been playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't 
>>>> seem to be able to create pretty labels or slides because the 
>>>> picture is either not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are 
>>>> wrong, or the text is too big or small. If you don't create all of 
>>>> your own lessons, how do you access materials sighted peers make or 
>>>> those off of sites such as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or 
>>>> cut out your own lessons, such as when creating math games or 
>>>> centers? How, if at all, do you incorporate dry-erase activities and 
>>>> know students are not playing on their boards or messing about?
>>>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is 
>>>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and 
>>>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts 
>>>> or learning targets/intentions to display?
>>>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I 
>>>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further 
>>>> with anyone who is willing.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jackie Larrauri
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NOBE-L mailing list
>>>> NOBE-L at nfbnet.org
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> Dear Shai,
> 
> Would you kindly please send me your email address? I have a plethora and myriad of questions related to being a teacher of blind students, specifically with regards to doing certain aspects of your work.
> 
> I'd be available via either phone, email, Zoom, Skype or whatever tech you're comfortable using. Thanks much!  ??
> 
> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
> ? ME
> 
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Shai Wolman via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello all,
> I apologize for coming in late on this topic. I too am totally blind and have been a teacher of students with visual impairment for the past three years. I am an itinerant teacher.
> If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off list and we can chat by email or phone.
> Thanks.
> Shai Wolman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOBE-L <nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Oglesbee via NOBE-L
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:29 AM
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Brian Oglesbee <ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
> 
> Hello all. I am totally blind and I?ve been teaching for 16 years I also am the head coach of my high school golf team. Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns you have my email address is below
> 
> 
> ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Nikki Palm via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hello everyone,
> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
> 
> Nikki Palm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Excellent feedback Humberto.
> 
> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
> 
> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson
> 
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Dear Jackie,
> 
> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
> 
> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
> 
> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
> 
> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
> 
> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Humberto
> 
> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
> ? ME
> 
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Jackie,
> 
> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
> 
> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
> 
> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
> 
> Kindly,
> Mikaela
> 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Jackie,
> 
> 
> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Tara Abella
> 
> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening,
> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at
> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not
> posted on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to
> ask. I have been in two preschool placements and one first grade
> placement. Most recently, I was in a third grade placement that was
> cut short. After being in these placements, I have more questions
> about teaching, especially for those teaching in the general
> education or inclusive elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and
> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student
> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion
> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education
> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become
> more discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to
> talk with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the
> phone, but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to
> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent
> communication, and papers to grade.
> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in
> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white
> or chalk board?
> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom
> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or
> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have
> been playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't
> seem to be able to create pretty labels or slides because the
> picture is either not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are
> wrong, or the text is too big or small. If you don't create all of
> your own lessons, how do you access materials sighted peers make or
> those off of sites such as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or
> cut out your own lessons, such as when creating math games or
> centers? How, if at all, do you incorporate dry-erase activities and
> know students are not playing on their boards or messing about?
> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is
> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and
> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts
> or learning targets/intentions to display?
> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I
> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further
> with anyone who is willing.
> Best,
> Jackie Larrauri
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:38:12 -0400
> From: Jackie Larrauri <ixchel.jackie.larrauri at gmail.com>
> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List
>    <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
> Message-ID: <D57DCAA5-8F73-45FC-8D57-19F780F58E1C at gmail.com>
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> 
> Thank you all for your kind responses!
> Jackie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Dear Shai,
>> 
>> Would you kindly please send me your email address? I have a plethora and myriad of questions related to being a teacher of blind students, specifically with regards to doing certain aspects of your work.
>> 
>> I'd be available via either phone, email, Zoom, Skype or whatever tech you're comfortable using. Thanks much!  ??
>> 
>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>> ? ME
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Shai Wolman via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello all,
>> I apologize for coming in late on this topic. I too am totally blind and have been a teacher of students with visual impairment for the past three years. I am an itinerant teacher.
>> If you have any questions please feel free to contact me off list and we can chat by email or phone.
>> Thanks.
>> Shai Wolman
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NOBE-L <nobe-l-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Oglesbee via NOBE-L
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:29 AM
>> To: National Organization of Blind Educators Mailing List <nobe-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Brian Oglesbee <ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NOBE-L] Questions about teaching and student teaching
>> 
>> Hello all. I am totally blind and I?ve been teaching for 16 years I also am the head coach of my high school golf team. Please feel free to email me with any questions or concerns you have my email address is below
>> 
>> 
>> ugaoglesbee at yahoo.com
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Nikki Palm via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello everyone,
>> There has been some great advice on this thread. I am also in my teacher preparation program. I am not quite to student teaching yet though. Even still, many of the same questions have traveled through my brain a time or two. Would it be possible for me to contact you experienced teachers as well? I would love to hear tricks from The trade. I would be happy to talk via email, text or by phone. Whatever works for you, works for me.
>> 
>> Nikki Palm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Dr Denise M Robinson via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Excellent feedback Humberto.
>> 
>> Remember you don?t have to reinvent the wheel.  Many have gone before and done it like Eric Weihenmayer, and so many many more.
>> 
>> Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Humberto Avila via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Dear Jackie,
>> 
>> The concerns that you have are very valid, even from someone who is a teacher of Blind students like myself. My name is Humberto and I have been a TVI for the past couple of months. I have a B.A. degree in education, and like you, I've had to go through many field experiences to get going.
>> 
>> I have been to many K-12 classrooms, some just to observe. Teachers are mainly welcoming, and I was lucky that in my college, every professor I've had was awesome.  Sometimes, though, it was assumed that I could not do many of the things that other teacher candidates were doing, such as setting up materials and doing handouts, so they didn't make me do it as the other classmates did it.  Also, I've been in some classrooms where, sadly, there were students that asked me questions and acted as if I was a "weird" person, thereby perpetuating the same misperceptions of Blindness that we often do not like being perpetuated.
>> 
>> Like you, I often turned in my assignments, underwent professional workshops in classroom management and read many books that often had me asking 20 times more questions than I had originally, because those are always, in my opinion, set out and targeted only at sighted teachers, and taught the use of visual stimuli, content, and behaviors. How am I supposed to feel the eyes of a pack of kids when I say, "1 2 3, eyes on me?" How do I hear the hand's bones raddle upon a student raising their hand? Luckily I deal with students one on one, so don't have to deal with this issue, but, I totally would understand your frustration with these curricula. I don't think is fair to say they are promoting inclusive learning for all, but there is no inclusion for all facilitators of inclusive learning.
>> 
>> I think you should read Eric Weihenmayer's book, "No Bariers." You may know him as the Blind person who successfully climbed Everest, but he was also a successful Elementary School teacher working with sighted children back in his day. In a couple chapters he discusses in vivid detail how he did his job, and he has some great strategies that I think can help you.
>> 
>> Take care and please feel free to reach out when you need it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Humberto
>> 
>> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
>> ? ME
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Mikaela Stevens via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Jackie,
>> 
>> It is okay to have questions and concerns...what matters is what you do about them. I commend you for searching for solutions instead of giving up.
>> 
>> I have been teaching grades 1-3 at public Montessori schools for 3 years. The most important thing is to have core confidence in yourself! I have some strategies that I am willing to share with you. I also believe it is important to be resourceful and think outside the box when new challenges arise-and they will.
>> 
>> Please feel free to email me off this list and we can set up a time to talk over the phone.
>> 
>> Kindly,
>> Mikaela
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Tara Abella via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hi Jackie,
>> 
>> 
>> These are all great questions, and questions I had going into student teaching. I student taught in first grade with 44 students, and in a special ed placement working with students from kindergarten through eighth grade. I currently teach second grade at a state school for the blind, but I am still responsible for using the technology, setting up the classroom, grading printed papers, and most of what you mentioned. Please feel free to reach out to me, and we can set up a phone call to discuss these questions and any other questions you may have if you would like. There are absolutely workarounds for all of your concerns, and I?m happy to help you in anyway I can.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Tara Abella
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:52 PM, Jackie Larrauri via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> My name is Jackie Larrauri and I am finishing up my senior year at
>> university and will be starting my MAT in the fall. I have not
>> posted on this list for a long time, but have a few questions to
>> ask. I have been in two preschool placements and one first grade
>> placement. Most recently, I was in a third grade placement that was
>> cut short. After being in these placements, I have more questions
>> about teaching, especially for those teaching in the general
>> education or inclusive elementary classroom, though I would love advice from anyone.
>> I've been having many doubts about teaching as a blind person and
>> while I can find various tips for first year teachers and student
>> teachers, these are all from a sighted perspective. While my passion
>> has always been to teach early elementary in the general education
>> classroom and not students with visual impairments, I have become
>> more discouraged as I have been in these placements. I would love to
>> talk with a blind teacher if at all possible in more detail over the
>> phone, but I have also written some of my questions and doubts below.
>> 1. How do you organize your printed papers--either those you need to
>> give out as assignments, those you get from administration, parent
>> communication, and papers to grade.
>> 2. How do you grade papers from all subject areas? If you teach in
>> kindergarten or first grade, how do you grade handwriting?
>> 3. How do you teach handwriting? Reading? Math? Do you use a white
>> or chalk board?
>> 4. How do you incorporate technology into your classroom?
>> 5. How do you manage fire drills or field trips?
>> 6. I've seen a lot of videos on creating lesson plans, classroom
>> labels, organizing a classroom library, and creating powerpoint or
>> Google slides lessons. How do you create these materials? I have
>> been playing around with powerpoint and Google slides, but can't
>> seem to be able to create pretty labels or slides because the
>> picture is either not in the shape I want, the rotation or size are
>> wrong, or the text is too big or small. If you don't create all of
>> your own lessons, how do you access materials sighted peers make or
>> those off of sites such as Pinterest or TPT? How do you laminate or
>> cut out your own lessons, such as when creating math games or
>> centers? How, if at all, do you incorporate dry-erase activities and
>> know students are not playing on their boards or messing about?
>> 7. How do you set up your classroom on your own, making sure it is
>> visually welcoming and inviting, bullitin boards are straight, and
>> everything is in place? Similarly, how do you create anchor charts
>> or learning targets/intentions to display?
>> I appreciate any insights you might have about these subjects. As I
>> said, I would love to discuss these questions and doubts further
>> with anyone who is willing.
>> Best,
>> Jackie Larrauri
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:13:35 -0700 (PDT)
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> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 23:17:41 -0700
> From: Nikki Palm <nikkirae83 at gmail.com>
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> Hi Jasmine,
> That could be pretty cool. Google hangouts would also be a great option for something like that.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay via NOBE-L <nobe-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> ? ?HI, 
>> I have a friend who may want to subscribe. Does she subscribe with nobe-l at nfbnet.org, with a subject that says, "Subscribe"? 
>> My second question: would anyone be interested in starting a group on Whatsapp for those of us who have it or may want to try? I think I talked about this before, but don't remember what anyone's responses were. Please let me know what you think. 
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