[Nyagdu] Off List RE: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters tomorrow at 4:15PM

Sat May 5 11:40:25 UTC 2012

I wasn't rude at all. I have taken myself off of NAGDU, I am still a member but of NYAGDU, I want to thank you for your help with the Costco issues, and if I need anything in the future, I will contact you and Margo Downey. But the last few weeks even when I express JMO opinion on something, I am blasted and made rude reflections to.
I am getting e-mails from people I call friends who are on the list, and feel the same exact way I do.  I am not staying on the list, and probably. I have way to many things to do, to be insulted for stating an opinion. Or posting an issue, the e-mail went to all the lists I am on.
So, I have been on and off for years, now I am just off for good, I will read on NYAGDU if there is anything important in the movement. 
I am never a rude or nasty person!
So, I will take what you say to my file box, and remember these important lectures, as a learning curve.
Have a good weekend, and please let me know what is going on with the dog food delivery, Rebecca who I am working with in Dallas, the Tour Supplier, and also a colleague in the travel industry, needs to know what is going on as well.
Take care and god bless.
Cheryl
Leading the Way in Independent Travel!

Cheryl Echevarria
http://www.echevarriatravel.com
631-456-5394
reservations at echevarriatravel.com

For daily updates read our blog at
http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com

> From: blind411 at verizon.net
> To: marsha.drenth at gmail.com; cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Off List  RE: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters tomorrow at 4:15PM
> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:47:11 -0400
> 
> Cheryl,
>     I agree with Marsha. Just because you are a guide dog user and might 
> mention that fact during an interview does not make publicizing that 
> interview on the NAGDU list any more appropriate. As Marsha has stated, the 
> NAGDU list is very high traffic and we are taking steps to reduce the 
> volume. This includes discouraging one-line or other brief messages, posts 
> to individuals, and messages that are off-topic.
>     I appreciate the fact that you want to be involved in NAGDU and have 
> helped out with such things as dog food at convention and other guide dog 
> related advocacy. At the same time, as Marsha has stated, this does not 
> excuse inappropriate messages to the list. I have had several interviews 
> concerning my music and, even though I am a Federationist, a guide dog user, 
> and sometimes mention these facts during an interview, I do not publicize 
> these interviews on NFB lists, with the exception of the Performing Arts 
> Division, since such a message would be appropriate for that list, but not 
> the NAGDU, Human Services, fund raising, or any other NFB lists.
>     I would also like to state that publicly expressing anger toward the 
> list moderator for doing the job I have asked her to do and threatening to 
> unsubscribe because of this does not demonstrate the professionalism that is 
> a part of the culture of leadership within the Federation. Such behavior 
> does not engender confidence among the membership and could be seen as 
> volatility, a trait that does not create a sense of confidence. I hope this 
> constructive feedback is taken in the pspirit in which it is intended and 
> helps you grow as a leader in our Movement.
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'cheryl echevarria'" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:10 PM
> Subject: Off List RE: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters 
> tomorrow at 4:15PM
> 
> 
> > Cheryl,
> >
> > I am sorry your upset with me, but your post was off topic. I have allowed
> > you to post several other off topic emails to the list, but if your posts
> > are off topic, they are off topic. I get on to other listers about off 
> > topic
> > messages, and the same goes for you. We have a very high traffic list, and
> > your off topic messages just increase the number of emails that listers
> > receive.
> >
> > I think its great your going to be speaking on the radio about the NFB. 
> > Its
> > awesome that you are so active in your travel and tourism division. And 
> > its
> > awesome that you gave Marion, information about dog food delivery in 
> > Dallas.
> > But with that said, these things do not grant you special privileges on 
> > the
> > NAGDU list.
> >
> > I am sorry your upset, and if you unsubscribe that is your fault. I have
> > asked you nicely not to post the off topic messages, but the list is more
> > than just a place to post notices. The list is to share information about
> > guide dogs, nothing more or less.
> >
> > So you can either abide by the rules with no off topic messages, or you 
> > can
> > unsubscribe. I would be saying and asking for the same thing from any of 
> > the
> > other members on the list. I am the moderator of the list, one who has 
> > been
> > very fair in my moderatorship. I am not trying to be mean or rude. And 
> > your
> > below message is not appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Marsha, Moderator
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> > Of cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:55 PM
> > To: nagdu
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters tomorrow at
> > 4:15PM
> >
> >
> > Guess what it does, I am an NFB Member I will be talking about traveling 
> > and
> > guide dogs, and me traveling with my guide dog. But I will do so, if fact 
> > I
> > will leave the list.  Not happy at all, I will be on NYAGDU, if I need to
> > know anything.
> > I have also given information to our President about delivery of dog food
> > for convention.
> > Have a nice day all!
> >
> >
> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >
> > Cheryl Echevarria
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> > 631-456-5394
> > reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >
> > For daily updates read our blog at
> > http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> >
> >> From: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 16:43:48 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters tomorrow 
> >> at
> > 4:15PM
> >>
> >> Cheryl,
> >>
> >> This is an off topic email and does not belong on the NAGDU list. Please
> >> stay on topic.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Marsha, Moderator
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> >> Behalf
> >> Of cheryl echevarria
> >> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:07 PM
> >> To: nagdu; nyagdu
> >> Subject: [nagdu] I will be on the radio show blind matters tomorrow at
> >> 4:15PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello all:
> >> I will be on Blind Matters, and all talk radio show in Fl.  Around 4:15pm
> >> Eastern Saturday, May 5.
> >> BLIND MATTERSCall in #:             407-774-0810      www.big810am.com
> >> Even if you are not in Florida, you can listen to the radio show online 
> >> at
> >> www.big810am.com
> >> I have posted the information here to call in or to listen online.
> >> First show of its kind in the country..an all talk show catering to the
> >> visually impaired and the blind. 70% entertainment and 30% informative.
> >> Laugh and learn with Michael who is legally blind. What makes this show
> >> unique is that the host, many of the guests, including a blind comedian,
> > and
> >> some of the advertisers are also visually impaired or blind.  We value
> > your
> >> input and ideas.  Let's hear from YOU on Blind Matters.  It's YOUR show!!
> >> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational 
> >> Federation
> >> of the Blind631-236-5138 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting
> >> 631-236-5138      end_of_the_skype_highlighting
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> >> 631-236-5138      end_of_the_skype_highlightingcherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
> >> 631-456-5394 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            631-456-5394
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> >> 631-456-5394      end_of_the_skype_highlighting
> >> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> >>
> >> For daily updates read our blog at
> >> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
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