[Oagdu] You can't have the best of both worlds... Or can you?

Tue Aug 18 16:17:02 UTC 2015

Angel, in most cases I do believe you are correct.  In this situation
I respectfully disagree.  A guide dog is trained, at great expense, to
provide assistance to someone who has vision that is compromised to
the point where the person either needs a cane or dog to travel
safely.  If an individual can see well enough to drive a car then, I
don't their vision is severe enough to need a guide dog and the dog is
more of a pet.  Also, how do you think the public will react to
someone driving a car and then getting out with their guide dog?  This
really sends a mixed message.  JMO.

On 8/18/15, Angel via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I don't think we should decide this question.  It should be up to this woman
>
> and the professionals assisting her to decide such questions as are these.
> Though, individuals are free to choose not to ride with such people as are
> they.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deanna Lewis via Oagdu" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] You can't have the best of both worlds... Or can you?
>
>
>>I actually once worked with someone who used the bioptics while driving. I
>>
>>had to ride in a van with this person on a 2 hour long trip and I tell you
>>
>>what... This person should NEVER have been allowed to drive. They scared
>>the living daylights out of me and I NEVER rode in a car with them again!!!
>>
>>I thought we were going to wreck about 10 times and it was so scary. I was
>>
>>praying the entire time.
>> Deanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Luann Bowers
>> via Oagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:56 AM
>> To: Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
>> Cc: Luann Bowers
>> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] You can't have the best of both worlds... Or can
>> you?
>>
>> Hi everyone this is Luanne and cadence I agree also you shouldn't have
>> both of both worlds if you're blind you're blind I agree also it would be
>>
>> quite dangerous if she's on the road with bionics also she could use them
>>
>> like Marianne said to check corners and everything but I don't think she
>> needs both if she's blind and requires a dog and she shouldn't be driving
>>
>> thanks a lot Lou and cadence
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Marianne Denning via Oagdu
>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> If her vision is bad enough to need a cane or dog then I wouldn't want
>>> her on the road.  If her vision is good enough to drive then she
>>> doesn't need a cane or dog. She could also use the bioptic lenses to
>>> check corners for crossing and other things.
>>>
>>>> On 8/18/15, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Good Morning,
>>>> I have been pondering over something that I saw someone write on
>>>> Facebook a few weeks ago. This girl is a guide dog user, and is also
>>>> doing bioptic driver training. For those who are not sure what that
>>>> is, it's training to help visually impaired people continue to drive,
>>>> with the use of monoculars and other devices.
>>>> Personally, I have a lot of issues with this scenario. I feel that if
>>>> you are legally blind and require a cane or a guide dog to get around
>>>> safely, that you should not be able to drive too. You can't have the
>>>> best of both worlds, you are either blind or sighted. Yes, there are
>>>> many blind people with some vision, but I think it's wrong to have
>>>> both a guide dog and a driver's license. I don't think it's fair to use
>>>>
>>>> both.
>>>> What do you all think? Am I over-reacting? Do you know other guide
>>>> dog handlers who also drive?
>>>> Deanna and Mambo
>>>>
>>>>
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