[Oagdu] housing accommodations

Sat Aug 22 13:27:50 UTC 2015

Angel and all, a service dog has been trained to do specific tasks
such as: guiding a blind person, helping someone in a wheelchair,
alerting a deaf person...  An assistance animal or emotional support
animal provides emotional support for someone who may have mental
health issues.  The assistance animal has not been trained to do any
task.  A service animal is a dog, and in some cases, a miniature
horse.  An assistance animal can be any animal.  ADA covers service
animals.  Assistance animals are allowed in housing and air travel.
It is very complicated and I think doctors will provide medical
documentation for anyone to have an assistance animal.  If I went to
my doctor and asked for the documentation and she denied me the
documentation, I would just go to another doctor who would.

On 8/21/15, Angel via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> What is the difference between an assistance animal and a service animal?  I
>
> suspect, if I am confused, why would anyone who isn't familiar with those
> who might require either be as well.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Megan Schief via Oagdu" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: <meandthedog at oberlin.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Oagdu] housing accommodations
>
>
>> >Marianne is right. My  new residence will allow assistance dogs. MS. P.
>> and i will be the first guide
>> dog and partner their. If you have an assistance dog you just get a
>> statement from a doctor.
>> we are being welcomed at my know home. I am responsible not to allow her
>> or me to
>> bring any uncomfortable behavior to other residents.
>> I am not confused. I think the college has a right to set some
>> expectation
>> of our responsibilities..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> my point exactly... is it worth my time in starting something over this?
>>> or should I get a group of people together to fight it?
>>>
>>> On 8/20/2015 8:38 PM, Charles Hiser via Oagdu wrote:
>>>> Well, it doesn't matter. The contract is still partially illegal.
>>>>
>>>> Charles Hiser
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Abigail Bolling via Oagdu
>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles, this is a new thing that they are doing.
>>>>> This is not confirmed, but I suspect it is because they are allowing
>>>>> ESA animals to live in campus housing this year and they don't want
>>>>> anyone abusing the priveledge
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/20/2015 8:19 PM, Charles Hiser via Oagdu wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> When I was a freshman at Wright State, and applying for on-campus
>>>>>> housing, they didn't make me sign any kind of contract. Legally, as
>>>>>> has already been stated, they cannot ask for documentation proving
>>>>>> that a dog is a service animal. They can, however, ask for
>>>>>> documentation relating to your need of a service animal. At least,
>>>>>> housing can. For public access, they cannot ask for that. I'm not
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> exactly how the law would apply to a university doing this, but I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> landlords and apartment complexes can, so I would think housing would
>>>>>> be able to as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles Hiser
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Chris Tolle via Oagdu
>>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I echo what TJ just said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tollebooth
>>>>>>> Chris Tolle
>>>>>>> 513-439-7931
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: this communication was generated using dictation on an iOS
>>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Timothy J. Meloy via Oagdu
>>>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are correct. Allergies are not a sufficient reason to deny an
>>>>>>>> accommodation for a service animal.also the request that you
>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>> documentation that cricket is a service animal is also illegal. You
>>>>>>>> don't have to provide documentation. But I'm thinking that your ID
>>>>>>>> would be sufficient to show that you both have completed training.
>>>>>>>> Feel free to contact me off list if you want to discuss this in
>>>>>>>> further detail.
>>>>>>>> TJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Abigail Bolling via Oagdu
>>>>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> So apparently now, I must sign a contract each year to have my
>>>>>>>>> service animal in campus housing.
>>>>>>>>> What worries me is there are two places in said contract where it
>>>>>>>>> says something to the effect of If a student has a service animal,
>>>>>>>>> their housing may be changed if another resident has a fear or
>>>>>>>>> allergy to the animal.
>>>>>>>>> Am I wrong in thinking that this statement is just shy of being
>>>>>>>>> illegal?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the exact wording of the contract:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (E)
>>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>>>> he student is responsible for assuring that the
>>>>>>>>> Animal
>>>>>>>>> does not unduly interfere
>>>>>>>>> with the routine activities of the residence or cause difficulties
>>>>>>>>> for students who reside
>>>>>>>>> there. Sensitivity to residents with allergies and to those who
>>>>>>>>> fear animals is
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>> to ensure the peace of the residential community.
>>>>>>>>> Disability Services and Residence
>>>>>>>>> Life & Housing will work with students in situations where an
>>>>>>>>> accommodation for an
>>>>>>>>> Animal negatively impacts another student covered by the Americans
>>>>>>>>> with Disabil
>>>>>>>>> ities
>>>>>>>>> Act. Housing relocation may be utilized to
>>>>>>>>> resolve such conflicts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (J)
>>>>>>>>> Residence Life
>>>>>>>>> & Housing
>>>>>>>>> has the authority to relocate a student and the
>>>>>>>>> Animal
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>> per current contractual agreements.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do yall think of this?
>>>>>>>>> The school is also asking for propper documentation that Cricket
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in fact a service dog... but, no one will tell me what those
>>>>>>>>> documents are or how I can get them! Which, if they have a problem
>>>>>>>>> once I get on campus, pardon my unprofessional opinion, but, they
>>>>>>>>> will not like me very much at all!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I was just wanting to know yall's thoughts on this new
>>>>>>>>> development. If anyone is interested, I can send out a copy of the
>>>>>>>>> entire contract.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>>>>>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>>>>>>>>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>>>>>>>>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let
>>>>>>>>> the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond)
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>>>>>>>>> earth."
>>>>>>>>> (William Purkey)
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>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>>>>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>>>>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the
>>>>> music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond)
>>>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
>>>>> like no one is listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth."
>>>>> (William
>>>>> Purkey)
>>>>> "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence." (H. L. Mencken
>>>>> "We can only learn to love by loving." (Iris Murdoch
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>>> Abigail Bolling
>>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the
>>> music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond)
>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
>>> like
>>> no one is listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth." (William
>>> Purkey)
>>> "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence." (H. L. Mencken
>>> "We can only learn to love by loving." (Iris Murdoch
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