[Oagdu] housing accommodations

Marion Gwizdala blind411 at verizon.net
Mon Aug 24 19:01:14 UTC 2015


Dear All,

	The difference is in the definition as it pertains to the law. The
Fair Housing Act specifically uses the term "Assistance animal" in an effort
to not confuse it with the ADA definition of a service animal. An Assistance
animal under FHA has a broader definition and a less restrictive definition.


Marion Gwizdala



-----Original Message-----
From: Oagdu [mailto:oagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angel via Oagdu
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:06 PM
To: Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
Cc: Angel
Subject: Re: [Oagdu] housing accommodations

What is the difference between an assistance animal and a service animal?  I
suspect, if I am confused, why would anyone who isn't familiar with those
who might require either be as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Megan Schief via Oagdu" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List" <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: <meandthedog at oberlin.net>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Oagdu] housing accommodations


> >Marianne is right. My  new residence will allow assistance dogs. MS. P.
> and i will be the first guide
> dog and partner their. If you have an assistance dog you just get a 
> statement from a doctor.
> we are being welcomed at my know home. I am responsible not to allow 
> her or me to bring any uncomfortable behavior to other residents.
> I am not confused. I think the college has a right to set some 
> expectation of our responsibilities..
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> my point exactly... is it worth my time in starting something over this?
>> or should I get a group of people together to fight it?
>>
>> On 8/20/2015 8:38 PM, Charles Hiser via Oagdu wrote:
>>> Well, it doesn't matter. The contract is still partially illegal.
>>>
>>> Charles Hiser
>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Abigail Bolling via Oagdu 
>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Charles, this is a new thing that they are doing.
>>>> This is not confirmed, but I suspect it is because they are 
>>>> allowing ESA animals to live in campus housing this year and they 
>>>> don't want anyone abusing the priveledge
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/20/2015 8:19 PM, Charles Hiser via Oagdu wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> When I was a freshman at Wright State, and applying for on-campus 
>>>>> housing, they didn't make me sign any kind of contract. Legally, 
>>>>> as has already been stated, they cannot ask for documentation 
>>>>> proving that a dog is a service animal. They can, however, ask for 
>>>>> documentation relating to your need of a service animal. At least, 
>>>>> housing can. For public access, they cannot ask for that. I'm not 
>>>>> sure exactly how the law would apply to a university doing this, 
>>>>> but I know landlords and apartment complexes can, so I would think 
>>>>> housing would be able to as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Hiser
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Chris Tolle via Oagdu 
>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I echo what TJ just said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tollebooth
>>>>>> Chris Tolle
>>>>>> 513-439-7931
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: this communication was generated using dictation on an iOS 
>>>>>> device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Timothy J. Meloy via Oagdu 
>>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are correct. Allergies are not a sufficient reason to deny 
>>>>>>> an accommodation for a service animal.also the request that you 
>>>>>>> provide documentation that cricket is a service animal is also 
>>>>>>> illegal. You don't have to provide documentation. But I'm 
>>>>>>> thinking that your ID would be sufficient to show that you both have
completed training.
>>>>>>> Feel free to contact me off list if you want to discuss this in 
>>>>>>> further detail.
>>>>>>> TJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Abigail Bolling via Oagdu 
>>>>>>>> <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> So apparently now, I must sign a contract each year to have my 
>>>>>>>> service animal in campus housing.
>>>>>>>> What worries me is there are two places in said contract where 
>>>>>>>> it says something to the effect of If a student has a service 
>>>>>>>> animal, their housing may be changed if another resident has a 
>>>>>>>> fear or allergy to the animal.
>>>>>>>> Am I wrong in thinking that this statement is just shy of being 
>>>>>>>> illegal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the exact wording of the contract:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (E)
>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>>> he student is responsible for assuring that the Animal does not 
>>>>>>>> unduly interfere with the routine activities of the residence 
>>>>>>>> or cause difficulties for students who reside there. 
>>>>>>>> Sensitivity to residents with allergies and to those who fear 
>>>>>>>> animals is important to ensure the peace of the residential 
>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>> Disability Services and Residence Life & Housing will work with 
>>>>>>>> students in situations where an accommodation for an Animal 
>>>>>>>> negatively impacts another student covered by the Americans 
>>>>>>>> with Disabil ities Act. Housing relocation may be utilized to 
>>>>>>>> resolve such conflicts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (J)
>>>>>>>> Residence Life
>>>>>>>> & Housing
>>>>>>>> has the authority to relocate a student and the Animal as 
>>>>>>>> necessary per current contractual agreements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do yall think of this?
>>>>>>>> The school is also asking for propper documentation that 
>>>>>>>> Cricket is in fact a service dog... but, no one will tell me 
>>>>>>>> what those documents are or how I can get them! Which, if they 
>>>>>>>> have a problem once I get on campus, pardon my unprofessional 
>>>>>>>> opinion, but, they will not like me very much at all!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, I was just wanting to know yall's thoughts on this new 
>>>>>>>> development. If anyone is interested, I can send out a copy of 
>>>>>>>> the entire contract.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>>>>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>>>>>>>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>>>>>>>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just 
>>>>>>>> let the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like no 
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>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>>>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>>>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let 
>>>> the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like no one is 
>>>> watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no one is 
>>>> listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth." (William
>>>> Purkey)
>>>> "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence." (H. L. 
>>>> Mencken "We can only learn to love by loving." (Iris Murdoch
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>> --
>> Abigail Bolling
>> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
>> Phone: (513) 512-3456
>> "keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the 
>> music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like no one is watching, 
>> love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no one is listening, and 
>> live like it's Heaven on earth." (William
>> Purkey)
>> "Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence." (H. L. 
>> Mencken "We can only learn to love by loving." (Iris Murdoch
>>
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