[Oagdu] Leader Dogs resolution.
Angel
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Wed Jul 8 19:33:26 UTC 2015
The Federation is like any other private organization. Through its own efforts, for example, it, along with Ray Kirtzweil, created the Knfb Reader technology, without asking for private funds. It might be remembered the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People which began in 1908, the oldest organization of its kind in the land, took quite a long time to impact our society. We Blind people are an even smaller minority than are black people in America, and blind dog guide owners are an even smaller minority of blind Americans.
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From: Aleeha Dudley via Oagdu
To: tollebooth at gmail.com
Cc: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com ; Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Oagdu] Leader Dogs resolution.
We face this discrimination for the same reason we face discrimination everywhere else. It takes a long time, from the crafting of a policy, to education, to gradual results. Change does not happen overnight. We have to all work together to make this happen. It takes time and a lot of fighting. Just look at the progress we have made.
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 11:40 AM, tollebooth at gmail.com wrote:
If we wheel this type of power, why are we still being discriminated against in retail establishments all across the country for using a guide dog? If NFB resolution can truly have the consequences described in earlier notes in this thread, none of us should be experiencing the level of dog discrimination that we see. If we have the power to make this kind of resolution impactful, why are we not using said power to do a lot of other good things as well as this. I do not support any organization that demesnes or degrades the lifestyle or living ability of those of us who can't see. I also know that if our resolutions carry this kind of weight and we're not using them more actively to do more good in larger scales in larger places in larger Waze, we fail.
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Aleeha Dudley via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
This has been done already at this convention.
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Angel via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I think people truly concerned about this lamentable state of affairs should: Not only strongly protest to Leader Dogs; perhaps they are unaware of how horrible an organization they have chosen to accredit the school, but should talk to the schools benefactor, the Lions Clubs, both local and national.
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From: Aleeha Dudley via Oagdu
To: Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users List
Cc: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Oagdu] Leader Dogs resolution.
That is because of Nac's constant fight against blind people and what is best for them. The fact that Leader has affiliated with NAC is a terrible thing. People who have graduated from NAC centers in the past have not had the skills they need. The accreditation means nothing. It's all about the money.
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Chris Tolle via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Why…
When there are so many other major impacting people impacting dog impacting issues going on, why wouldn't NFB national convention arm take such a position against any guy dog training program?
Whether people want to believe it or not we're all in the same boat. Leader dogs, Seeing Eye, guide dogs for the blind, ET see… They're all here to help those of us who need a quality well-trained well-prepared dog to acquire one. Perhaps it would be a good time for me to ask what weight this particular resolution has in the grand scheme of things.
Not the voice of dissension, more of inquiry. I am a bit surprised to see such strong language in a resolution. Especially a resolution that appears to condemn one particular training school or any training school or all training schools depending on the position for attempting to acquire necessary funding to continue to provide us with quality Guide POGS.
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On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <oagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Good Morning,
I wanted to pass this resolution along to you all, as I do know that we have a few Leader Dogs users on this list.
I may be wrong, but it looks like Nagdu voted on this last night, and it was approved by Nagdu members. Then, it will be presented to the entire Convention tomorrow for an official vote. I am very interested to hear the comments from people at Convention about this resolution.
Deanna
Resolution 2015-05
Regarding Leader Dogs for the Blind's Accreditation by NAC
WHEREAS, in 1989 the International Federation of Guide Dog Schools for the Blind, later known as the International Guide Dog Federation (IGDF), was formed to create and promulgate standards for the operation and administration of guide dog training programs throughout the world; and
WHEREAS, the IGDF today has over eighty member guide dog training programs around the world, including thirteen in the United States; and
WHEREAS, US-member guide dog training programs include Guide Dogs for the Blind, the Seeing Eye, and Leader Dogs for the Blind, the three largest guide dog training programs in the United States; and
WHEREAS, the standards of the IGDF are well known as a solid model for guide dog training program operation and administration; and
WHEREAS, in January 2015 Leader Dogs for the Blind announced that it had received accreditation by the National Accreditation Council for Blind and Low Vision Services (NAC), an organization formed in the 1960s supposedly to create and promulgate standards for the operation of agencies serving the blind but which, in fact, has never provided a good model for the operation and administration of any agency; and
WHEREAS, NAC has no expertise in the guide dog arena, and any attempt by NAC to accredit guide dog training programs can serve only to undermine the efforts of the IGDF; and
WHEREAS, in the past Leader Dogs for the Blind, recognizing the worthless nature of NAC’s alleged accreditation, resisted attempts by NAC to accredit it and stood with consumers in opposing the shoddy and irrelevant standards NAC attempted to use to gain credibility among the ranks of guide dog training programs and their consumers; and
WHEREAS, Leader Dogs’ past vigorous opposition to NAC accreditation was expressed in part through a letter from Harold L. Pocklington, then-executive director of Leader Dogs for the Blind, to NAC’s president, and published in the February 1986 issue of the Braille Monitor, which said:
We believe we can handle our own affairs. If the dog guide training programs don't respond to your suggestions, it may be they don't believe the method of accreditation can be done only by you. We believe we can be our own judge of operation, without any help from NAC or a committee NAC might appoint. We are not indifferent, unaware, or apathetic. We just believe if it ain't broke, don't fix it; and
WHEREAS, the purpose of NAC has always been to undermine and thwart the right of the organized blind to speak on behalf of blind consumers and Leader Dogs’ affiliation with NAC has the same effect in seeking to minimize the voice of the blind; and
WHEREAS, Leader Dogs receives a significant amount of its funding from Lions International and from individual Lions clubs; and
WHEREAS, any money spent by Leader Dogs in seeking and obtaining accreditation by NAC is a misuse of the support provided by its donors and can only encourage the efforts of an outdated and useless agency, NAC, to attempt to gain financial support from other guide dog training programs that it approaches in its attempts to convince them to accept its irrelevant and meaningless accreditation: Now, therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this ninth day of July, 2015, in the city of Orlando, Florida, that this organization condemn and deplore Leader Dogs for the Blind’s accreditation by and consequent support of NAC; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization demand that Leader Dogs for the Blind take immediate steps to terminate its accreditation by NAC; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that we call on Lions International and individual Lions clubs to cease their funding of Leader Dogs for the Blind until it terminates its accreditation by NAC; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization urge all guide dog training programs to resist any attempts by NAC to accredit them and insist instead that all guide dog training programs in the United States support the legitimate standards and accreditation of the IGDF.
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