<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>They do, but they have not spoken about it, but I also left the meeting early yesterday: my dog needed out. But before now, Leader has nothing to say. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 11:10 AM, <a href="mailto:tollebooth@gmail.com">tollebooth@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Does leader dogs have a representative on the ground at convention that can speak to these concerns?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 10:16 AM, <a href="mailto:blindcowgirl1993@gmail.com">blindcowgirl1993@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>That is because of Nac's constant fight against blind people and what is best for them. The fact that Leader has affiliated with NAC is a terrible thing. People who have graduated from NAC centers in the past have not had the skills they need. The accreditation means nothing. It's all about the money. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Chris Tolle via Oagdu <<a href="mailto:oagdu@nfbnet.org">oagdu@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Why…</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>When there are so many other major impacting people impacting dog impacting issues going on, why wouldn't NFB national convention arm take such a position against any guy dog training program? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Whether people want to believe it or not we're all in the same boat. Leader dogs, Seeing Eye, guide dogs for the blind, ET see… They're all here to help those of us who need a quality well-trained well-prepared dog to acquire one. Perhaps it would be a good time for me to ask what weight this particular resolution has in the grand scheme of things.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Not the voice of dissension, more of inquiry. I am a bit surprised to see such strong language in a resolution. Especially a resolution that appears to condemn one particular training school or any training school or all training schools depending on the position for attempting to acquire necessary funding to continue to provide us with quality Guide POGS. </div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);"><br></span><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Deanna Lewis via Oagdu <<a href="mailto:oagdu@nfbnet.org">oagdu@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good Morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I wanted to pass this resolution along to you all, as I do know that we have a few Leader Dogs users on this list.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I may be wrong, but it looks like Nagdu voted on this last night, and it was approved by Nagdu members. Then, it will be presented to the entire Convention tomorrow for an official vote. I am very interested
to hear the comments from people at Convention about this resolution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Deanna<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<h2 style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Resolution 2015-05<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Regarding Leader Dogs for the Blind's Accreditation by NAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, in 1989 the International Federation of Guide Dog Schools for the Blind, later known as the International Guide Dog Federation
(IGDF), was formed to create and promulgate standards for the operation and administration of guide dog training programs throughout the world; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, the IGDF today has over eighty member guide dog training programs around the world, including thirteen in the United States;
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, US-member guide dog training programs include Guide Dogs for the Blind, the Seeing Eye, and Leader Dogs for the Blind, the
three largest guide dog training programs in the United States; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, the standards of the IGDF are well known as a solid model for guide dog training program operation and administration; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, in January 2015 Leader Dogs for the Blind announced that it had received accreditation by the National Accreditation Council
for Blind and Low Vision Services (NAC), an organization formed in the 1960s supposedly to create and promulgate standards for the operation of agencies serving the blind but which, in fact, has never provided a good model for the operation and administration
of any agency; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, NAC has no expertise in the guide dog arena, and any attempt by NAC to accredit guide dog training programs can serve only
to undermine the efforts of the IGDF; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, in the past Leader Dogs for the Blind, recognizing the worthless nature of NAC’s alleged accreditation, resisted attempts
by NAC to accredit it and stood with consumers in opposing the shoddy and irrelevant standards NAC attempted to use to gain credibility among the ranks of guide dog training programs and their consumers; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, Leader Dogs’ past vigorous opposition to NAC accreditation was expressed in part through a letter from Harold L. Pocklington,
then-executive director of Leader Dogs for the Blind, to NAC’s president, and published in the February 1986 issue of the
<em><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Braille Monitor</span></em>, which said:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">We believe we can handle our own affairs. If the dog guide training programs don't respond to
<u>your</u> suggestions, it may be they don't believe the method of accreditation can be done only by you. We believe we can be our own judge of operation, without any help from NAC or a committee NAC might appoint. We are not indifferent, unaware, or apathetic.
We just believe if it ain't broke, don't fix it; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, the purpose of NAC has always been to undermine and thwart the right of the organized blind to speak on behalf of blind consumers
and Leader Dogs’ affiliation with NAC has the same effect in seeking to minimize the voice of the blind; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, Leader Dogs receives a significant amount of its funding from Lions International and from individual Lions clubs; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">WHEREAS, any money spent by Leader Dogs in seeking and obtaining accreditation by NAC is a misuse of the support provided by its donors
and can only encourage the efforts of an outdated and useless agency, NAC, to attempt to gain financial support from other guide dog training programs that it approaches in its attempts to convince them to accept its irrelevant and meaningless accreditation:
Now, therefore,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled this ninth day of July, 2015, in the city of Orlando,
Florida, that this organization condemn and deplore Leader Dogs for the Blind’s accreditation by and consequent support of NAC; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization demand that Leader Dogs for the Blind take immediate steps to terminate its accreditation
by NAC; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that we call on Lions International and individual Lions clubs to cease their funding of Leader Dogs for the
Blind until it terminates its accreditation by NAC; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization urge all guide dog training programs to resist any attempts by NAC to accredit them and
insist instead that all guide dog training programs in the United States support the legitimate standards and accreditation of the IGDF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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