[Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11

[Eric Burghardt]

I personally think that the leash shouldn't be too long, I like to keep him 
where I can see him...lol
Eric Burghardt
President
National Federation of the Blind of Greater Toledo

Phone: 419-655-2402
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wanda sloan" <wandasloan1 at earthlink.net>
To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11


> This is very funny.  I am told and I already know that I am older than
> Richard but my mental age is around 35 or 40 years old.  This is younger
> than Richard.  Ha Ha Ha
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawn" <dlanting at bex.net>
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11
>
>
> Hey Crystal,
> I thought about what dear Richard said
> But when I thought about how Richard must be getting up in age I just
> thought I would hold my silence
> They say some people lose their mind first heheheheheeha
> If he gets to bad we will have to put him on a long leash
> We wouldn't want him to wonder to far away and not find his way back
> Have a great day
> Dawn
>
>
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>   1. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Mark McClain)
>   2. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Colleen Roth)
>   3. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Colleen Roth)
>   4. Re: candy sells (Mark McClain)
>   5. Convention Mentors (Colleen Roth)
>   6. Re: Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 10 (Dawn)
>   7. Good Role Models (Colleen Roth)
>   8. Re: candy sells (Payne, Richard L (GE Money))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:34:42 -0400
> From: "Mark McClain" <mcmcclain at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
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> I just wanted to say that this was one of the best years in my eyes for
> people being at the sessions our delegation was usually full. The exhibit
> hall schedule for the Ohio table was filled by volunteers almost
> immediately. Usually I end up doing several shifts and this year I was
> happily surprised. Some people do not realize what they are missing by not
> going to the sessions and the board meeting. Only the Ohio people who were
> there got to experience the thrill of cheering on our own Mary-Anne Joseph
> at he board meeting. I think we could put together a state convention
> session on going to national convention Including how to pack ( PUT YOUR
> NAME ON YOUR LUGGAGE) , what different sessions are about and more! I also
> know that alot of what you learn at the convention doesn't happen in
> sessions. It is by experiencing the whole event including finding
> restaurants, dealing with dog poop, and of course my favorite raffles!
> Crystal
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Payne, Richard L (GE Money)" <richard.payne at ge.com>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
>>I could not say it better. I would like to add that I was very glad to
>> find our first timer at the general meetings.    I was not interested in
>> the black berry presentation but I was sure that one of my members
>> was  interested in the phone     I attended the meeting to provide him
>> with the info. I would add as the membership chair person having members
>> attend the general sessions is important because it also demonstrates
>> unity. We could debate different points about attending as many of the
>> sessions but the hard facts is  that we represent every one in our
>> affiliate when we go so they charge us with attending.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Dr. Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:23 AM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>>
>>
>> Amen and well said Colleen.
>>
>> JW
>>
>> Dr. J. Webster Smith
>> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio P.O.BOX 458 Athens,
>> Ohio, 45701-0458 Phone Number - 740-592-6326 "Changing What it Means to
>> be Blind"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colleen Roth" <n8tnv at att.net>
>> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everett,
>>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally you
>> may
>>> learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also, sometimes
>>> interspersed with things on the Agenda something might pop up that was
>>
>>> shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of having the Delegation
>>
>>> filled, it's a matter of learning to share with others.  Personally, I
>> do
>>> not do well with Technology but I attend because I might learn
>> something
>>> which I can share.  I may not understand everything I hear but I get
>>> enough to know who to ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the States.  It
>>
>>> gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and sometimes we even
>> get an
>>> idea we can use.  I know I probably came off as a grouch on my last
>> post
>>> but I can honestly say in all my years in the NFB I only missed one
>>> session and that was because I needed to lie down because I wasn't
>> feeling
>>> well.
>>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you will
>> learn.
>>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local chapter you
>> are
>>> expected to attend all beessions and as many activities as you can.
>> You
>>> are representing those people who cannot attend, and, hopefully, you
>> will
>>> learn something to share.
>>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the poins.
>>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was impressive.
>> This
>>> is not because I like to sit through Presentations of Awards but
>> because
>>> it is good to know what others are doing.
>>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with Optical
>>
>>> Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was huge probably
>> about
>>> $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
>> Conventions.
>>> I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.  By the way, this
>>> included Conventions where I had a multiply-handicapped child to care
>> for.
>>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take responsibility for
>>
>>> attending things and learning.
>>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you channel
>> that
>>> into getting people to meetings and getting them to work on things.
>> If
>>> you put all that energy to good use at a Convention think what you
>> could
>>> do.
>>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
>> stewards
>>> of our time and the Affiliate's money at future Conventions.
>>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the Exhibit
>>
>>> Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did not arrive
>> until
>>> Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>>> Colleen Roth
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:27:10 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Hi Everett,
> I am glad you feel that you did better this year. I do not care if you pay
> for Convention or get help from the Affiliate. Being at Sessions helps you
> learn and hopefully share when you get home.
> I like to visit with people too. I just work at getting sleep too. I
> challenge you to spend more time at Sessions at State ConventioneaEverett.
> You would be surprised at how much you can accomplish between sessions and
> during other free time.
> I did forget the thing I missed was not a General Session but Technology 
> on
> a Friday afternoon. I understand that some things are not interesting to
> some of us. The Convention is a mix of things we need to know and things
> that may be of interest.
> None of us like everything.
> But there is always something to learn.
> Let's see how many sessions you can be a part of for the complete session,
> Everett.
> I know you can do it.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB OF Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2009/07/14 11:04:25
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Colleen, and All,
>>
>> Thanks for your response, Colleen.  I'll respond to a couple of points of
>> yours:
>>
>> 1) I understand that those who are sponsored by the NFB, MEANING THOSE 
>> WHO
>> get help, get funding to be able to attend, are "expected" to go to
> general
>> sessions and some other meetings.  But that's my question and point of
>> clarification.  Instead of making it seem slightly Hitleresque by simply
>> saying we need to be there, I'm asking ininwhy,* is all.  It's that
> simple.
>>
>> I've put myself out there by asking this question. Because I heard a
>> couple-few grumbles when mentioning it to others during the convention 
>> and
>> not having a clear answer as to why, other than, "Because we're expected
>> to."  So I've gone public with this, in the hopes that somewhere in our
>> various leadership throughout the affiliate, we will get some beauty, 
>> some
>> 'poetic clarity' shared that will help enthuse others towards being more
>> involved every day at future conventions.
>>
>> Many will read this, I hope.  But even if only a few 'new' minds grasp 
>> the
>> reasons as to why, at least they can then help others grasp why a bit
> better
>> in the future.  This would get a better response than simply telling
>> someone, "Because we need to, that's all," if that makes sense?
>>
>>
>> 2)  While I wasn't at convention for a vacation, I understand what you're
>> saying.  It'll probably prove out that way with some again this year,
>> unfortunately.  I do remember several years ago, one of our chapter
> members
>> who was involved back when it was more convenient for her, and she went 
>> to
> a
>> national convention, and seemed to be poolside all week long.  As we 
>> know,
>> the leadership does tend to take notice of who actually goes to learn and
> at
>> least tries to help ou-combe it at convention or back in the local 
>> chapter
> or
>> both, versus those who basically treat it like a vacation.
>>
>> Me, I'm fairly happy with my personal results.  I helped out more this
> year
>> in various volunteering ways than at any previous convention.  Plus I got
> to
>> encourage and help inspire a few different people fairly new to the
>> organization.  It was great, and it's what I love doing.  I'm a social
> sort.
>> I love meeting new people, and love adventuring out - even if we do
>> occasionally get lost (Hush now, Mr. Payne).  I did channel much of my
>> energy towards exactly what you mention, Colleen.  Though I fudged the
>> scheduling over the weekend and missed a handful of meetings due to that,
>> well, again, I still did better than before, and that's what it's all
> about.
>>
>> I was doing what I could to encourage various conventiongoers, while
>> learning and experiencing things myself.  Though I continue to struggle 
>> to
>> have a week full of 2am nights and 5:30am mornings, I did better this 
>> year
>> than any year previous.  I'm getting closer to my personal 'goal' of
> keeping
>> up with JW AND Richard and socializing in the evenings while still 
>> getting
>> business done during the day-comevery day.  I am a very social sort of
> person.
>> I enjoy the 'schmoozing.'  I love meeting new people.  And so to go to 
>> bed
>> early at conventions is hard.  I did what I could to encourage people 
>> from
>> Toledo, from Akron, and even a new friend from Chicago who was new to the
>> NFB.  And I think she's caught the fever, and is hooked.  She's 
>> definitely
>> inspired, anyway.  And if things play out the way I hope and pray, she'll
> be
>> working with Marilyn Donehey to start a new chapter in their region, 
>> North
>> of Chicago.
>>
>> So those are a few great reasons why I go, anyway.  To get reinvigorated,
>> myself - and to prove to myself that I actually am getting better
>> year-by-year.  And to inspire, motivate, and educate others every chance 
>> I
>> get.  Certainly not for a vacation.  Though when you do so many positive
>> things, and end up helping so many people - and bringing back information
>> and resources to further help those in your community, Thank You God, it
>> ends up feeling rather like a vacation after all.  How great is that?
>> Thanks again, Ohio, for letting me be a part of it!
>>
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > Hi Everett,
>> > You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> > Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally
>> > you may learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also,
>> > sometimes interspersed with things on the Agenda something might
>> > pop up that was shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of
>> > having the Delegation filled, it's a matter of learning to share
>> > with others.  Personally, I do not do well with Technology but I
>> > attend because I might learn something which I can share.  I may
>> > not understand everything I hear but I get enough to know who to
>> > ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> > It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the
>> > States.  It gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and
>> > sometimes we even get an idea we can use.  I know I probably came
>> > off as a grouch on my last post but I can honestly say in all my
>> > years in the NFB I only missed one session and that was because I
>> > needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
>> > I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you
>> > will learn.
>> > Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO OR YOUR LOCAL
>> > chapter you are expected to attend all beessions and as many
>> > activities as you can.  You are representing those people who
>> > cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will learn something to share.
>> > We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the
>> > poins.
>> > I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was
>> > impressive.  This is not because I like to sit through
>> > Presentations of Awards but because it is good to know what
>> > others are doing.
>> > Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with
>> > Optical Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was
>> > huge probably about $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> > Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
>> > Conventions.  I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.
>> > By the way, this included Conventions where I had a
>> > multiply-handicapped child to care for.
>> > I am not being critical, I just want people to take
>> > responsibility for attending things and learning.
>> > Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you
>> > channel that into getting people to meetings and getting them to
>> > work on things.  If you put all that energy to good use at a
>> > Convention think what you could do.
>> > I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
>> > stewards of our time and the Affiliate's money at future
>> > Conventions.
>> > It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the
>> > Exhibit Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did
>> > not arrive until Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> > See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> > Colleen Roth
>> >
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:35:08 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Message-ID: <20090715023508.n8tnv at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi Carol,
> Feel free to vent. Thanks for saying what you did.
> You do not know how glad I am that you said these things.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol Akers <purplecakers at yahoo.com>
> To: NFB OF Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2009/07/14 15:45:02
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>>
>>
>> Amen is right.  Colleen you put it well.  It is TRUE SOMETIMES WE TEND TO
> GET BORED BECAUSE IT IS A LONG TIME TO SIT-COMBUT AS YOU SD-COMTHERE ARE 
> SO
> MANY INTERESTING FACTS TO TAKE BACK AND SHARE WITH THOSE WHO WERE UNABLE 
> TO
> ATTEND.  There is SO MUCH NEW CUTTING EDGE INFORMATION ON TECHNOLOGY AND
> PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
>> As Colleen sd-comwe all need to keep in mind that if we are being
> sponsored or assisted by any organization as well as the NFB-COMWE NEED TO
> BE PRESENT AT SESSIONS, SEMINARS AND WORKSHOPS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE
> MONEY WAS SPENT FOR.  If we are using this time as a personal get away or
> vacation and not attending the functions related to the convention-comwe 
> are
> in essence misappropriating the funding intentions.  Or in straight
> words-comwe are stealing money that could have been put to better use to
> assist someone who was truly interested in the real reason for attendence.
> Working at the exhibit hall is a good way to assist, selling the M& M's to
> raise funds is another---many people do neither and do not offer any type 
> of
> service to those around u.  It reflects poorly on us as a state, when half
> of our delegation  never shows up to any session or workshop.  We can
> arrange social time in other ways on our own time and at our own expense.
>> This is part of my venting Colleen! :com)
>> Carol
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Dr. Smith <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Dr. Smith <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>> To: "NFB OF Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:22 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> Amen and well said Colleen.
>>
>> JW
>>
>> Dr. J. Webster Smith
>> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>> P.O.BOX 458 Athens, Ohio, 45701-0458
>> Phone Number - 740-592-6326
>> "Changing What it Means to be Blind"
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Roth" <n8tnv at att.net>
>> To: "NFB OF Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Everett,
>> > You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> > Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally you
> may learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also, sometimes
> interspersed with things on the Agenda something might pop up that was
> shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of having the Delegation
> filled, it's a matter of learning to share with others.  Personally, I do
> not do well with Technology but I attend because I might learn something
> which I can share.  I may not understand everything I hear but I get 
> enough
> to know who to ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> > It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the States.  It
> gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and sometimes we even get an
> idea we can use.  I know I probably came off as a grouch on my last post 
> but
> I can honestly say in all my years in the NFB I only missed one session 
> and
> that was because I needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
>> > I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you will
> learn.
>> > Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO OR YOUR LOCAL CHAPTER YOU
> ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND ALL BEESSIONS AND AS MANY ACTIVITIES AS YOU C.  You
> are representing those people who cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will
> learn something to share.
>> > We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the poins.
>> > I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was impressive.
> This is not because I like to sit through Presentations of Awards but
> because it is good to know what others are doing.
>> > Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with Optical
> Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was huge probably about
> $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> > Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
> Conventions.. I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.  By the 
> way,
> this included Conventions where I had a multiply-handicapped child to care
> for.
>> > I am not being critical, I just want people to take responsibility for
> attending things and learning.
>> > Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you channel 
>> > that
> into getting people to meetings and getting them to work on things.  If 
> you
> put all that energy to good use at a Convention think what you could do.
>> > I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better 
>> > stewards
> of our time and the Affiliate's money at future Conventions.
>> > It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the Exhibit
> Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did not arrive until
> Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> > See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> > Colleen Roth
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:52:21 -0400
> From: "Mark McClain" <mcmcclain at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
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> Richard if I was Dawn I would rip you for that "old" comment! Crystal
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "richard payne" <rchpay7 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'" 
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>
>>I want to thank Cindy and Jim for there record keeping and making sure we
>> had just enough candy and not lots to bring back to Ohio. I also want to
>> take my hat off to all who worked hard to sell and get that candy sold.
>> Paul
>> sold around 100 packs of candy but the winner of the candy sells with 122
>> packs of candy was a first timer from Toledo Don Lanton I must say I am
>> impress. This states 2 thing to me you are never too old to be active and
>> never to new to get involved. We had a lot of new people at the 
>> convention
>> and great energy we are pushing for 250 people at the convention. I
>> challenge all chapter presidents to bring your people to Columbus. I did
>> have to buy the chair person of the Cleveland chapter a nice dinner for
>> bringing  more members to the state convention stay tuned chapter
>> presidents
>> you may get the chance.
>>
>> Thanks Richard
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:16:53 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Convention Mentors
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> Hi Crystal,
> I just want to say that part of being a Mentor at Convention is strongly
> encouraging your mentee to attend sessions. You probably also need to show
> them the ropes in other areas and invite them to participate in activities
> with you.
> When I spent time with first time conventioneers years ago I always 
> invited
> them to go to meals with me, to sessions and introduced them to people.
> You are right, Crystal. There is more than sessions. Convention is 
> sessions,
> division and group meetings, volunteering, networking navigating a lot of
> area, cooperating with others and remembering to be courteous. It's also
> nice to have some fun.
> Personally, I enjoyed visiting with Dawn, her husband and son. Marilee and 
> I
> enjoyed this. I do wish I could have been there long enough to see people 
> I
> haven't seen in years.
> At least I can see some Ohio people at the Board Meeting and State
> Convention.
> Maybe we can literally assign mentors to new conventioneers if that is 
> being
> done now.
> If you are not a newbie encourage newbies to attend activities and invite
> them to join you. I am not talking about just the fun stuff either.
> Actually you can really have a lot of fun working a table. I do love 
> helping
> at a table and always hope for an assignment at the State Convention.
> There is definitely a lot of walking at the Convention. I did forget how
> crowded it is too.
> Someone wanted to know why we couldn't just take the wheelchair down the
> escalator. I can't quite figure out how we were going to do this.
> The person said wheelchairs take up too much room on the elevator. Oh, 
> well!
> Maybe we could have something for those who have never attended a National
> Convention or those who have questions about them.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:19:44 -0400
> From: "Dawn" <dlanting at bex.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 10
> To: <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Hello everyone
> Colleen puts everything always in the right words
> She has a lot of wisdom and I think a lot of experience
> I was taught by the person at the Toledo sight center that if you used a
> sighted guide you shouldn't use a cane at the same time
> But when colleen got to the convention she set me straight she was only
> there with me for a day but she kept on me to get my cane out
> I feel that is how we all learn by other who have already traveled down 
> the
> same road
> I myself enjoyed the general sessions sometimes I wanted to tell
> Others to be quiet so I could hear what they were saying they told us a 
> lot
> of interesting things
> When the others got up there and were talking about reading brail that
> really hit home to me
> Hear I have a college education and now I cant read with out the help of 
> my
> computer
> I think it is funny how all the people I no
> Ask me if I can read Braille I say no not yet but they don't understand
> They thought I guess
> That when I lost my sight I would automatically no brail
> I now have a great brail teacher who even comes to my home when we went to
> the restraunt
> She was reading me the menu
> It was like she was reading with sight she read so well and so fast
> I want to be able to read like that again
> And after listening to them people on stage at the general sessions I no I
> can do it
> I enjoyed the convention and took in everything I could for the first time
> I went into the back to basic workshop then I had a pretty bad insulin
> reaction and had to take care of that
> I am very thankful I even did a survey to help blind diabetics to let the
> manufactures no that blind people can operate a insulin pen even with no
> eyes
> I myself would love to have a pen but the type of insulin I use is high
> potency and they don't make it for a pen
> I really
> Think I learned a lot I no Mrs. Roth was wait ing on the work shop how to
> love your dog hheehehehehehehehee
> Here kitty kitty kitty
> Thank you everyone for your help if I wasn't to talkative at times
> Them were the times I was just to overwhelmed me not talkative 
> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
> who would believe that
> Maybe next time Stevie will get through  on the phone hehehehheheheei have
> to go study my brail now
> Dawn
>
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>   1. Re: Great Convention (Everett Gavel)
>   2. Re: Great Convention (Colleen Roth)
>   3. The Attendance of General Sessions? (Everett Gavel)
>   4. Re: candy sells (Melannen amara)
>   5. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Colleen Roth)
>   6. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Everett Gavel)
>   7. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Dr. Smith)
>   8. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Dr. Smith)
>   9. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions? (Carol Akers)
>  10. Re: The Attendance of General Sessions?
>      (Payne, Richard L (GE Money))
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:02:28 -0400
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Great Convention
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
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> I have 5 experiences and thoughts to share in regards to my convention
> experience this year:
>
> 1)  I'm thankful for the roommates I had.  It was good to get to know all 
> 3
> of them better.  I look forward to meeting up with Eric (from Toledo), 
> Henry
> and Christian (both from Cleveland) at future conventions and other 
> events.
>
> 2)  Eric, Hannah, and I met another convention-goer down in the lobby one
> night.  She had just arrived that day (from Chicago) and was sitting there
> alone (well, her and her GDF guide-dog, Jim), doing her homework.  It was
> her first convention, and basically her opening herself up to the NFB for
> the first time, too, I believe she said.  Well, I don't know if we let her
> be alone again for the rest of the week.  We were checking to make sure 
> she
> always had something to do and someone to do it with.  If she didn't, we
> told her to come with us, wherever that may have been.  Her name is Sarah,
> Sarah Chung, and she is the young lady that some of you met during the
> March, because when Hannah went to the ER with her friend (Alicia) and
> realized she'd miss the march due to still being at the ER, I shanghaied
> Sarah to help me carry the flag!  And not only that, but I do love the way
> God works and weaves things together.  Sarah is from Chicago, but being so
> new to all this, she really knew no one yet from the Illinois affiliate. 
> So
> she hung out with some friendly Ohioans for much of the week.  It turns 
> out
> that Sarah lives only about 45 minutes from where Marilyn Donehey just 
> moved
> to, North of Chicago.  So I hooked them up and pointed out some great
> similarities between them.  That they both are musically inclined to say 
> the
> least.  That besides the trumpet, Sarah also plays the piano, and that
> Marilyn is currently looking for a piano player to partner with so she can
> hopefully continue on with what she was doing here in Northeast Ohio. 
> Here
> she was half of a duo (duet?) called, "The Melody Masters."  On top of 
> that,
> Marilyn wants to start an NFB chapter North of Chicago, since the Chicago
> meeting is so far away.  And with Sarah being so close to Marilyn now, a
> more local chapter would be great for both of them, and so I think they 
> can
> work together on that chapter as well.  How cool is that?
>
> 3) At the elevators after the banquet, I met an old e-mail friend, 
> in-person
> for the first time.  His girlfriend mentioned wanting to do something I'd
> been thinking of for weeks, but hadn't attempted yet.  See, in Cleveland
> they have this hi-rise called Tower City.  Each year they have some sort 
> of
> a fundraiser called, I think, "Race to the Top."  It's 42 floors up, and
> people race up the stairwell.  I have yet to make it up to Cleveland to
> participate, but I hope to one day.  And I've been thinking, "Hey, this
> hotel I'll be staying at in Detroit has 72 floors, nevermind 42!"  So this
> young lady at the elevators and I became instant friends, and, "Partners 
> In
> Climb."  And that is how Lindsey from Rhode Island, Sarah from Chicago, 
> and
> my tired old butt from Ohio climbed 70+ flights of stairs together, the
> evening of the banquet.  Why, you might ask? Why not, I say in return. 
> It's
> that simple, if you let it be.  We created a memory, to say the least.
>
> 4) Again I missed meetings I'd hoped to go to.  Again I missed one full
> afternoon of General sessions and bits and pieces of a couple of others.
> And I totally messed-up and missed out on helping out at the Ohio table 
> this
> year (Sorry, Crystal).  But I'm getting better, year-after-year.  It was
> invigorating to be at convention again.  This was my first national since
> 2003.  And though this point may sound like a negative, it isn't.  Getting
> to cnovention helped solidify several things for me, and reinvigorated me,
> while helping me realize I did better, am doing better, than at previous
> conventions. ;-)
>
> 5) Lastly, I want to share something I just had a thought on.  I have 
> wished
> several times for easier-to-maneuver hotels (Atlanta and Detroit both come
> to mind most immediately for me).   But in thinking more about it, I'm 
> glad
> for these hotels and these experiences.  Because through any minor
> frustrations, at the very least it ends up pointing out a simple fact: 
> that
> no matter the circumstances, no matter the supposed barriers, we will
> survive, and we will ultimately get there.  And hey, we might even find
> something better than what we had in mind as a destination originally. 
> All
> from simply taking that step past our hesitancy, past our not knowing
> exactly where we are headed, and just doing it.  It reminds me of the 
> simple
> truth that one does not grow without being put under stress.  It's how we
> grow our muscles, it's how we grow our knowledge, and certainly it's how 
> God
> grows us.
>
> Thanks for letting me be a part of such a great week, and such a great
> experience.
>
>
> Everett
> www.DreamingInTandem.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:04:17 -0800
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Great Convention
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Message-ID: <20090714020417.n8tnv at att.net>
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>
> Hi All,
> I am glad that those who posted had a great time at Convention.
> Let's remember that part of being at Convention is attending the sessions
> and working where assigned.
> It's nice to have fun but our primary reason for being at a Convention is 
> to
> participate in Sessions and work where assigned.
> You can still have time to party. There is a balance there.
> Actually, I think you can attend every Session, the Banquet and some 
> evening
> meetings and still have time to have fun.
> Let's see how many people we can get to State Convention and how much
> participation we can have at all the sessions.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB OF Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2009/07/13 20:03:03
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Great Convention
>
>>
>>
>> I have 5 experiences and thoughts to share in regards to my convention
>> experience this year:
>>
>> 1)  I'm thankful for the roommates I had.  It was good to get to know all
> 3
>> of them better.  I look forward to meeting up with Eric (from Toledo),
> Henry
>> and Christian (both from Cleveland) at future conventions and other
> events.
>>
>> 2)  Eric, Hannah, and I met another convention-goer down in the lobby one
>> night.  She had just arrived that day (from Chicago) and was sitting 
>> there
>> alone (well, her and her GDF GUIDE-DOG, Jim), doing her homework.  It was
>> her first convention, and basically her opening herself up to the NFB FOR
>> the first time, too, I believe she said.  Well, I don't know if we let 
>> her
>> be alone again for the rest of the week.  We were checking to make sure
> she
>> always had something to do and someone to do it with.  If she didn't, we
>> told her to come with us, wherever that may have been.  Her name is 
>> Sarah,
>> Sarah Chung, and she is the young lady that some of you met during the
>> March, because when Hannah went to the ER WITH HER FRIEND (Alicia) and
>> realized she'd miss the march due to still being at the ER, I shanghaied
>> Sarah to help me carry the flag!  And not only that, but I do love the 
>> way
>> God works and weaves things together.  Sarah is from Chicago, but being 
>> so
>> new to all this, she really knew no one yet from the Illinois affiliate.
> So
>> she hung out with some friendly Ohioans for much of the week.  It turns
> out
>> that Sarah lives only about 45 minutes from where Marilyn Donehey just
> moved
>> to, North of Chicago.  So I hooked them up and pointed out some great
>> similarities between them.  That they both are musically inclined to say
> the
>> least.  That besides the trumpet, Sarah also plays the piano, and that
>> Marilyn is currently looking for a piano player to partner with so she 
>> can
>> hopefully continue on with what she was doing here in Northeast Ohio.
> Here
>> she was half of a duo (duet?) called, "The Melody Masters."  On top of
> that,
>> Marilyn wants to start an NFB CHAPTER North of Chicago, since the Chicago
>> meeting is so far away.  And with Sarah being so close to Marilyn now, a
>> more local chapter would be great for both of them, and so I think they
> can
>> work together on that chapter as well.  How cool is that?
>>
>> 3) At the elevators after the banquet, I met an old e-mail friend,
> in-person
>> for the first time.  His girlfriend mentioned wanting to do something I'd
>> been thinking of for weeks, but hadn't attempted yet.  See, in Cleveland
>> they have this hi-rise called Tower City.  Each year they have some sort
> of
>> a fundraiser called, I think, "Race to the Top."  It's 42 floors up, and
>> people race up the stairwell.  I have yet to make it up to Cleveland to
>> participate, but I hope to one day.  And I've been thinking, "Hey, this
>> hotel I'll be staying at in Detroit has 72 floors, nevermind 42!"  So 
>> this
>> young lady at the elevators and I became instant friends, and, "Partners
> In
>> Climb."  And that is how Lindsey from Rhode Island, Sarah from Chicago,
> and
>> my tired old butt from Ohio climbed 70+ flights of stairs together, the
>> evening of the banquet.  Why, you might ask? Why not, I say in return.
> It's
>> that simple, if you let it be.  We created a memory, to say the least.
>>
>> 4) Again I missed meetings I'd hoped to go to.  Again I missed one full
>> afternoon of General sessions and bits and pieces of a couple of others.
>> And I totally messed-up and missed out on helping out at the Ohio table
> this
>> year (Sorry, Crystal).  But I'm getting better, year-after-year.  It was
>> invigorating to be at convention again.  This was my first national since
>> 2003.  And though this point may sound like a negative, it isn't. 
>> Getting
>> to cnovention helped solidify several things for me, and reinvigorated 
>> me,
>> while helping me realize I did better, am doing better, than at previous
>> conventions. ;com)
>>
>> 5) Lastly, I want to share something I just had a thought on.  I have
> wished
>> several times for easier-to-maneuver hotels (Atlanta and Detroit both 
>> come
>> to mind most immediately for me).   But in thinking more about it, I'm
> glad
>> for these hotels and these experiences.  Because through any minor
>> frustrations, at the very least it ends up pointing out a simple fact:
> that
>> no matter the circumstances, no matter the supposed barriers, we will
>> survive, and we will ultimately get there.  And hey, we might even find
>> something better than what we had in mind as a destination originally.
> All
>> from simply taking that step past our hesitancy, past our not knowing
>> exactly where we are headed, and just doing it.  It reminds me of the
> simple
>> truth that one does not grow without being put under stress.  It's how we
>> grow our muscles, it's how we grow our knowledge, and certainly it's how
> God
>> grows us.
>>
>> Thanks for letting me be a part of such a great week, and such a great
>> experience.
>>
>>
>> Everett
>> www.DreamingInTandem.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:28:40 -0400
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Hello Ohio,
>
> Due to some recent messages here, I am opening up the possibility for some
> further education.  In regards to attending the General sessions.
>
> Here's my question:
>
> If I look through the agenda, and one particular block of time has nothing
> that seems at all of interest to me on any of a few levels, why is it such 
> a
> bad thing if I miss that section of the general session?  Now, I know full
> well there are others who missed parts here and there.  They're just 
> 'smart'
> enough to keep their mouths shut on it.  But I'm asking someone, or a 
> bunch
> of someone's please, to chime in here with good, relevant, and concise
> reasons as to why we supposedly need to attend every general session - 
> even
> if it were in Japanese without an interpreter.  Or at least, that's the 
> way
> it seems.
>
> I'm hoping y'all can give some gentle and guiding advice on this point, or
> at least, I'm opening it up for that.  Because I talked to several new and
> younger people from our affiliate throughout the week and got the 
> impression
> that they felt similar to what I've felt in the past sometimes.  Like,
> "Well, I'm supposed to be there, and they expect me to be there, so I 
> should
> be there even if I don't know exactly why I need to be there."
>
> I believe I could've done a better job inspiring others to be there, along
> with inspiring myself along those lines, if I could've kept it clear in my
> noggin as to why it's so highly encouraged, other than to not have a bunch
> of empty seats in our affiliate during the presentations.  If there are
> other reasons, I'm asking for a refresher here, for us all, please?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Everett
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:37:26 -0400
> From: "Melannen amara" <mindhealer at bex.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
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>
> YAY DAWN!!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of richard payne
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:13 AM
> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
>
> I want to thank Cindy and Jim for there record keeping and making sure
> we
> had just enough candy and not lots to bring back to Ohio. I also want to
> take my hat off to all who worked hard to sell and get that candy sold.
> Paul
> sold around 100 packs of candy but the winner of the candy sells with
> 122
> packs of candy was a first timer from Toledo Don Lanton I must say I am
> impress. This states 2 thing to me you are never too old to be active
> and
> never to new to get involved. We had a lot of new people at the
> convention
> and great energy we are pushing for 250 people at the convention. I
> challenge all chapter presidents to bring your people to Columbus. I did
> have to buy the chair person of the Cleveland chapter a nice dinner for
> bringing  more members to the state convention stay tuned chapter
> presidents
> you may get the chance.
>
> Thanks Richard
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:19:22 -0400
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
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>
> Hi Everett,
> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally
> you may learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also,
> sometimes interspersed with things on the Agenda something might
> pop up that was shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of
> having the Delegation filled, it's a matter of learning to share
> with others.  Personally, I do not do well with Technology but I
> attend because I might learn something which I can share.  I may
> not understand everything I hear but I get enough to know who to
> ask I someone needs my help along the way.
> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the
> States.  It gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and
> sometimes we even get an idea we can use.  I know I probably came
> off as a grouch on my last post but I can honestly say in all my
> years in the NFB I only missed one session and that was because I
> needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you
> will learn.
> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local
> chapter you are expected to attend all beessions and as many
> activities as you can.  You are representing those people who
> cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will learn something to share.
> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the
> poins.
> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was
> impressive.  This is not because I like to sit through
> Presentations of Awards but because it is good to know what
> others are doing.
> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with
> Optical Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was
> huge probably about $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
> Conventions.  I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.
> By the way, this included Conventions where I had a
> multiply-handicapped child to care for.
> I am not being critical, I just want people to take
> responsibility for attending things and learning.
> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you
> channel that into getting people to meetings and getting them to
> work on things.  If you put all that energy to good use at a
> Convention think what you could do.
> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
> stewards of our time and the Affiliate's money at future
> Conventions.
> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the
> Exhibit Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did
> not arrive until Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
> See you at the NFBO Convention.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:03:52 -0400
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <000401ca0472$c61072b0$1e43e446 at nb9and4dl3cizf1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Colleen, and All,
>
> Thanks for your response, Colleen.  I'll respond to a couple of points of
> yours:
>
> 1) I understand that those who are sponsored by the NFB, meaning those who
> get help, get funding to be able to attend, are "expected" to go to 
> general
> sessions and some other meetings.  But that's my question and point of
> clarification.  Instead of making it seem slightly Hitleresque by simply
> saying we need to be there, I'm asking *why,* is all.  It's that simple.
>
> I've put myself out there by asking this question. Because I heard a
> couple-few grumbles when mentioning it to others during the convention and
> not having a clear answer as to why, other than, "Because we're expected
> to."  So I've gone public with this, in the hopes that somewhere in our
> various leadership throughout the affiliate, we will get some beauty, some
> 'poetic clarity' shared that will help enthuse others towards being more
> involved every day at future conventions.
>
> Many will read this, I hope.  But even if only a few 'new' minds grasp the
> reasons as to why, at least they can then help others grasp why a bit 
> better
> in the future.  This would get a better response than simply telling
> someone, "Because we need to, that's all," if that makes sense?
>
>
> 2)  While I wasn't at convention for a vacation, I understand what you're
> saying.  It'll probably prove out that way with some again this year,
> unfortunately.  I do remember several years ago, one of our chapter 
> members
> who was involved back when it was more convenient for her, and she went to 
> a
> national convention, and seemed to be poolside all week long.  As we know,
> the leadership does tend to take notice of who actually goes to learn and 
> at
> least tries to help out--be it at convention or back in the local chapter 
> or
> both, versus those who basically treat it like a vacation.
>
> Me, I'm fairly happy with my personal results.  I helped out more this 
> year
> in various volunteering ways than at any previous convention.  Plus I got 
> to
> encourage and help inspire a few different people fairly new to the
> organization.  It was great, and it's what I love doing.  I'm a social 
> sort.
> I love meeting new people, and love adventuring out - even if we do
> occasionally get lost (Hush now, Mr. Payne).  I did channel much of my
> energy towards exactly what you mention, Colleen.  Though I fudged the
> scheduling over the weekend and missed a handful of meetings due to that,
> well, again, I still did better than before, and that's what it's all 
> about.
>
> I was doing what I could to encourage various conventiongoers, while
> learning and experiencing things myself.  Though I continue to struggle to
> have a week full of 2am nights and 5:30am mornings, I did better this year
> than any year previous.  I'm getting closer to my personal 'goal' of 
> keeping
> up with JW and Richard and socializing in the evenings while still getting
> business done during the day--every day.  I am a very social sort of 
> person.
> I enjoy the 'schmoozing.'  I love meeting new people.  And so to go to bed
> early at conventions is hard.  I did what I could to encourage people from
> Toledo, from Akron, and even a new friend from Chicago who was new to the
> NFB.  And I think she's caught the fever, and is hooked.  She's definitely
> inspired, anyway.  And if things play out the way I hope and pray, she'll 
> be
> working with Marilyn Donehey to start a new chapter in their region, North
> of Chicago.
>
> So those are a few great reasons why I go, anyway.  To get reinvigorated,
> myself - and to prove to myself that I actually am getting better
> year-by-year.  And to inspire, motivate, and educate others every chance I
> get.  Certainly not for a vacation.  Though when you do so many positive
> things, and end up helping so many people - and bringing back information
> and resources to further help those in your community, Thank You God, it
> ends up feeling rather like a vacation after all.  How great is that?
> Thanks again, Ohio, for letting me be a part of it!
>
> Strive On!
> Everett
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> Hi Everett,
>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally
>> you may learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also,
>> sometimes interspersed with things on the Agenda something might
>> pop up that was shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of
>> having the Delegation filled, it's a matter of learning to share
>> with others.  Personally, I do not do well with Technology but I
>> attend because I might learn something which I can share.  I may
>> not understand everything I hear but I get enough to know who to
>> ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the
>> States.  It gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and
>> sometimes we even get an idea we can use.  I know I probably came
>> off as a grouch on my last post but I can honestly say in all my
>> years in the NFB I only missed one session and that was because I
>> needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you
>> will learn.
>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local
>> chapter you are expected to attend all beessions and as many
>> activities as you can.  You are representing those people who
>> cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will learn something to share.
>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the
>> poins.
>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was
>> impressive.  This is not because I like to sit through
>> Presentations of Awards but because it is good to know what
>> others are doing.
>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with
>> Optical Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was
>> huge probably about $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
>> Conventions.  I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.
>> By the way, this included Conventions where I had a
>> multiply-handicapped child to care for.
>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take
>> responsibility for attending things and learning.
>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you
>> channel that into getting people to meetings and getting them to
>> work on things.  If you put all that energy to good use at a
>> Convention think what you could do.
>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
>> stewards of our time and the Affiliate's money at future
>> Conventions.
>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the
>> Exhibit Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did
>> not arrive until Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:22:41 -0400
> From: "Dr. Smith" <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <EE0E6476BC4A42AB88FEB4EA95D6EE21 at user5e73dc805b>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=response
>
>
> Amen and well said Colleen.
>
> JW
>
> Dr. J. Webster Smith
> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> P.O.BOX 458 Athens, Ohio, 45701-0458
> Phone Number - 740-592-6326
> "Changing What it Means to be Blind"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Colleen Roth" <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Everett,
>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally you may
>> learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also, sometimes
>> interspersed with things on the Agenda something might pop up that was
>> shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of having the Delegation
>> filled, it's a matter of learning to share with others.  Personally, I do
>> not do well with Technology but I attend because I might learn something
>> which I can share.  I may not understand everything I hear but I get
>> enough to know who to ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the States.  It
>> gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and sometimes we even get 
>> an
>
>> idea we can use.  I know I probably came off as a grouch on my last post
>> but I can honestly say in all my years in the NFB I only missed one
>> session and that was because I needed to lie down because I wasn't 
>> feeling
>
>> well.
>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you will learn.
>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local chapter you 
>> are
>
>> expected to attend all beessions and as many activities as you can.  You
>> are representing those people who cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will
>> learn something to share.
>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the poins.
>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was impressive. 
>> This
>
>> is not because I like to sit through Presentations of Awards but because
>> it is good to know what others are doing.
>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with Optical
>> Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was huge probably about
>> $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at 
>> Conventions.
>
>> I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.  By the way, this
>> included Conventions where I had a multiply-handicapped child to care 
>> for.
>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take responsibility for
>> attending things and learning.
>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you channel that
>> into getting people to meetings and getting them to work on things.  If
>> you put all that energy to good use at a Convention think what you could
>> do.
>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better stewards
>> of our time and the Affiliate's money at future Conventions.
>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the Exhibit
>> Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did not arrive until
>> Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:33:04 -0400
> From: "Dr. Smith" <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <7966D72876344626B22B18AAC5916398 at user5e73dc805b>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
>
> Everett, let me add one more reason why I'd like too see you and as many 
> of
> us in the sessions as possible and as often as possible.
>
> Quite frankly, it's the best way for me to get in touch with you if I need
> something from you or think that their is something that could be 
> beneficial
>
> to you.
>
> It is very hard to catch up with people even with cell phones at these
> meetings and I love being able to find you in the delegation when I need 
> you
>
> and sometimes I will need you quickly!
>
> JW
>
> Dr. J. Webster Smith
> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> P.O.BOX 458 Athens, Ohio, 45701-0458
> Phone Number - 740-592-6326
> "Changing What it Means to be Blind"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Everett Gavel" <e.gavel at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
>> Hi Colleen, and All,
>>
>> Thanks for your response, Colleen.  I'll respond to a couple of points of
>> yours:
>>
>> 1) I understand that those who are sponsored by the NFB, meaning those 
>> who
>> get help, get funding to be able to attend, are "expected" to go to
>> general
>> sessions and some other meetings.  But that's my question and point of
>> clarification.  Instead of making it seem slightly Hitleresque by simply
>> saying we need to be there, I'm asking *why,* is all.  It's that simple.
>>
>> I've put myself out there by asking this question. Because I heard a
>> couple-few grumbles when mentioning it to others during the convention 
>> and
>> not having a clear answer as to why, other than, "Because we're expected
>> to."  So I've gone public with this, in the hopes that somewhere in our
>> various leadership throughout the affiliate, we will get some beauty, 
>> some
>> 'poetic clarity' shared that will help enthuse others towards being more
>> involved every day at future conventions.
>>
>> Many will read this, I hope.  But even if only a few 'new' minds grasp 
>> the
>> reasons as to why, at least they can then help others grasp why a bit
>> better
>> in the future.  This would get a better response than simply telling
>> someone, "Because we need to, that's all," if that makes sense?
>>
>>
>> 2)  While I wasn't at convention for a vacation, I understand what you're
>> saying.  It'll probably prove out that way with some again this year,
>> unfortunately.  I do remember several years ago, one of our chapter
>> members
>> who was involved back when it was more convenient for her, and she went 
>> to
>
>> a
>> national convention, and seemed to be poolside all week long.  As we 
>> know,
>> the leadership does tend to take notice of who actually goes to learn and
>> at
>> least tries to help out--be it at convention or back in the local chapter
>> or
>> both, versus those who basically treat it like a vacation.
>>
>> Me, I'm fairly happy with my personal results.  I helped out more this
>> year
>> in various volunteering ways than at any previous convention.  Plus I got
>> to
>> encourage and help inspire a few different people fairly new to the
>> organization.  It was great, and it's what I love doing.  I'm a social
>> sort.
>> I love meeting new people, and love adventuring out - even if we do
>> occasionally get lost (Hush now, Mr. Payne).  I did channel much of my
>> energy towards exactly what you mention, Colleen.  Though I fudged the
>> scheduling over the weekend and missed a handful of meetings due to that,
>> well, again, I still did better than before, and that's what it's all
>> about.
>>
>> I was doing what I could to encourage various conventiongoers, while
>> learning and experiencing things myself.  Though I continue to struggle 
>> to
>> have a week full of 2am nights and 5:30am mornings, I did better this 
>> year
>> than any year previous.  I'm getting closer to my personal 'goal' of
>> keeping
>> up with JW and Richard and socializing in the evenings while still 
>> getting
>> business done during the day--every day.  I am a very social sort of
>> person.
>> I enjoy the 'schmoozing.'  I love meeting new people.  And so to go to 
>> bed
>> early at conventions is hard.  I did what I could to encourage people 
>> from
>> Toledo, from Akron, and even a new friend from Chicago who was new to the
>> NFB.  And I think she's caught the fever, and is hooked.  She's 
>> definitely
>> inspired, anyway.  And if things play out the way I hope and pray, she'll
>> be
>> working with Marilyn Donehey to start a new chapter in their region, 
>> North
>> of Chicago.
>>
>> So those are a few great reasons why I go, anyway.  To get reinvigorated,
>> myself - and to prove to myself that I actually am getting better
>> year-by-year.  And to inspire, motivate, and educate others every chance 
>> I
>> get.  Certainly not for a vacation.  Though when you do so many positive
>> things, and end up helping so many people - and bringing back information
>> and resources to further help those in your community, Thank You God, it
>> ends up feeling rather like a vacation after all.  How great is that?
>> Thanks again, Ohio, for letting me be a part of it!
>>
>> Strive On!
>> Everett
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> Hi Everett,
>>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally
>>> you may learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also,
>>> sometimes interspersed with things on the Agenda something might
>>> pop up that was shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of
>>> having the Delegation filled, it's a matter of learning to share
>>> with others.  Personally, I do not do well with Technology but I
>>> attend because I might learn something which I can share.  I may
>>> not understand everything I hear but I get enough to know who to
>>> ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the
>>> States.  It gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and
>>> sometimes we even get an idea we can use.  I know I probably came
>>> off as a grouch on my last post but I can honestly say in all my
>>> years in the NFB I only missed one session and that was because I
>>> needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
>>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you
>>> will learn.
>>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local
>>> chapter you are expected to attend all beessions and as many
>>> activities as you can.  You are representing those people who
>>> cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will learn something to share.
>>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the
>>> poins.
>>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was
>>> impressive.  This is not because I like to sit through
>>> Presentations of Awards but because it is good to know what
>>> others are doing.
>>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with
>>> Optical Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was
>>> huge probably about $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
>>> Conventions.  I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.
>>> By the way, this included Conventions where I had a
>>> multiply-handicapped child to care for.
>>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take
>>> responsibility for attending things and learning.
>>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you
>>> channel that into getting people to meetings and getting them to
>>> work on things.  If you put all that energy to good use at a
>>> Convention think what you could do.
>>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
>>> stewards of our time and the Affiliate's money at future
>>> Conventions.
>>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the
>>> Exhibit Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did
>>> not arrive until Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>>> Colleen Roth
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Carol Akers <purplecakers at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Message-ID: <399499.62544.qm at web38303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Amen is right.? Colleen you put it well.? It is TRUE sometimes we tend to
> get bored because it is a long time to sit--but as you said--there are so
> many interesting facts to take back and share with those who were unable 
> to
> attend.? There is SO much new cutting edge information on technology and
> programs that we are privileged to hear before the general public.?
> As Colleen said--we all need to keep in mind that if we are being 
> sponsored
> or assisted by any organization as well as the NFB--we need to be present 
> at
> sessions, seminars and workshops because that is what the money was spent
> for.? If we are using this time as a personal get away or vacation and not
> attending the functions related to the convention--we are in essence
> misappropriating the funding intentions.? Or in straight words--we are
> stealing money that could have been put to better use to assist someone 
> who
> was truly interested in the real reason for attendence.? Working at the
> exhibit hall is a good way to assist, selling the M& M's to raise funds is
> another---many people do neither and do not offer any type of service to
> those around us.? It reflects poorly on us as a?state, when half of our
> delegation? never shows up to any session or workshop.? We can arrange
> social time in other ways on our own time and at our own expense.
> This is part of my venting Colleen! :-)
> Carol
>
> --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Dr. Smith <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dr. Smith <jwsmithnfb at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:22 AM
>
>
>
> Amen and well said Colleen.
>
> JW
>
> Dr. J. Webster Smith
> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> P.O.BOX 458 Athens, Ohio, 45701-0458
> Phone Number - 740-592-6326
> "Changing What it Means to be Blind"
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Roth" <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Everett,
>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally you may
> learn something that will benefit someone else.? Also, sometimes
> interspersed with things on the Agenda something might pop up that was
> shifted from another time.? It's not a matter of having the Delegation
> filled, it's a matter of learning to share with others.? Personally, I do
> not do well with Technology but I attend because I might learn something
> which I can share.? I may not understand everything I hear but I get 
> enough
> to know who to ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the States.? It
> gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and sometimes we even get an
> idea we can use.? I know I probably came off as a grouch on my last post 
> but
> I can honestly say in all my years in the NFB I only missed one session 
> and
> that was because I needed to lie down because I wasn't feeling well.
>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you will learn.
>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local chapter you 
>> are
> expected to attend all beessions and as many activities as you can.? You 
> are
> representing those people who cannot attend, and, hopefully, you will 
> learn
> something to share.
>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the poins.
>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was impressive.? 
>> This
> is not because I like to sit through Presentations of Awards but because 
> it
> is good to know what others are doing.
>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with Optical
> Character Recognition.? The first reading machine was huge probably about
> $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at 
>> Conventions.
> I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.? By the way, this 
> included
> Conventions where I had a multiply-handicapped child to care for.
>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take responsibility for
> attending things and learning.
>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.? I would like to see you channel that
> into getting people to meetings and getting them to work on things.? If 
> you
> put all that energy to good use at a Convention think what you could do.
>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better stewards
> of our time and the Affiliate's money at future Conventions.
>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the Exhibit
> Hall.? It is true that I didn't help this year but I did not arrive until
> Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ohio-talk mailing list
>> Ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:57:37 -0400
> From: "Payne, Richard L (GE Money)" <richard.payne at ge.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> I could not say it better. I would like to add that I was very glad to
> find our first timer at the general meetings.    I was not interested in
> the black berry presentation but I was sure that one of my members
> was  interested in the phone     I attended the meeting to provide him
> with the info. I would add as the membership chair person having members
> attend the general sessions is important because it also demonstrates
> unity. We could debate different points about attending as many of the
> sessions but the hard facts is  that we represent every one in our
> affiliate when we go so they charge us with attending.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Dr. Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:23 AM
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
> Amen and well said Colleen.
>
> JW
>
> Dr. J. Webster Smith
> President National Federation of the Blind of Ohio P.O.BOX 458 Athens,
> Ohio, 45701-0458 Phone Number - 740-592-6326 "Changing What it Means to
> be Blind"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colleen Roth" <n8tnv at att.net>
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] The Attendance of General Sessions?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Everett,
>> You do raise a valid point and it disserves an answer.
>> Well it may not alpear that a session will benefit you personally you
> may
>> learn something that will benefit someone else.  Also, sometimes
>> interspersed with things on the Agenda something might pop up that was
>
>> shifted from another time.  It's not a matter of having the Delegation
>
>> filled, it's a matter of learning to share with others.  Personally, I
> do
>> not do well with Technology but I attend because I might learn
> something
>> which I can share.  I may not understand everything I hear but I get
>> enough to know who to ask I someone needs my help along the way.
>> It's nice to hear the different states at Roll Call of the States.  It
>
>> gives us a flavor of the different affiliates and sometimes we even
> get an
>> idea we can use.  I know I probably came off as a grouch on my last
> post
>> but I can honestly say in all my years in the NFB I only missed one
>> session and that was because I needed to lie down because I wasn't
> feeling
>> well.
>> I know some things seem pointless but you never know what you will
> learn.
>> Also, if you are being sponsored by the NFBO or your local chapter you
> are
>> expected to attend all beessions and as many activities as you can.
> You
>> are representing those people who cannot attend, and, hopefully, you
> will
>> learn something to share.
>> We do not always enjoy every presentation but that is not the poins.
>> I think that the Presentation of the Bollotin awards was impressive.
> This
>> is not because I like to sit through Presentations of Awards but
> because
>> it is good to know what others are doing.
>> Ray Kurzweil is a pioneer in reading machines and working with Optical
>
>> Character Recognition.  The first reading machine was huge probably
> about
>> $80,000 and the size of a washing machine.
>> Everett, do not misunderstand me, I did do some fun things at
> Conventions.
>> I still worked booths, and attended all sessions.  By the way, this
>> included Conventions where I had a multiply-handicapped child to care
> for.
>> I am not being critical, I just want people to take responsibility for
>
>> attending things and learning.
>> Everett, you have a lot of energy.  I would like to see you channel
> that
>> into getting people to meetings and getting them to work on things.
> If
>> you put all that energy to good use at a Convention think what you
> could
>> do.
>> I hope that all of us will make a concerted effort to be better
> stewards
>> of our time and the Affiliate's money at future Conventions.
>> It's not fair that just a few people help at tables and at the Exhibit
>
>> Hall.  It is true that I didn't help this year but I did not arrive
> until
>> Tuesday at 11-30 a.m.
>> See you at the NFBO Convention.
>> Colleen Roth
>>
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> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:51:40 -0400
> From: Colleen Roth <n8tnv at att.net>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Good Role Models
> To: ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
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> Hi,
> I am glad I was able to help Dawn at the Convention.  I am also
> hapy to be her braille teacher.
> Isn't that what it's all about, helping and supporting each
> other?
> When we help and support each other we are truly a family.
> That doesn't mean we permit poor behavior or that we let
> irresonsible behavior go unchallenged.
> It was just so wonderful being at the Convention even if it was
> for a short time.
> I really can't tell you how wonderful it was.
> It was distressing to see so many people just staying away from
> sessions.  Cryast, I'm glad that we had a lot of people in the
> delegation, but we should have had every chair filled.
> I know that's a dream but I just can't understand why people
> would not go to sessions to learn everything they could.
> Besides, this is where you link up with others.
> I am sorry I did not get to go see some people I know in other
> delegations but there just wasn't time.
> I am thinking about Dallas but for me that would require a
> wheelchair.
> Let's remember to help each other and learn from each other.
> Have a great day!
> Congratulations to Dawn and her family for the Candy Sales.
> Colleen Roth
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:52:23 -0400
> From: "Payne, Richard L (GE Money)" <richard.payne at ge.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
> To: "NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List"
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> That was Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Mark McClain
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
>
> Richard if I was Dawn I would rip you for that "old" comment! Crystal
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:12 AM
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] candy sells
>
>
>>I want to thank Cindy and Jim for there record keeping and making sure
> we
>> had just enough candy and not lots to bring back to Ohio. I also want
> to
>> take my hat off to all who worked hard to sell and get that candy
> sold.
>> Paul
>> sold around 100 packs of candy but the winner of the candy sells with
> 122
>> packs of candy was a first timer from Toledo Don Lanton I must say I
> am
>> impress. This states 2 thing to me you are never too old to be active
> and
>> never to new to get involved. We had a lot of new people at the
> convention
>> and great energy we are pushing for 250 people at the convention. I
>> challenge all chapter presidents to bring your people to Columbus. I
> did
>> have to buy the chair person of the Cleveland chapter a nice dinner
> for
>> bringing  more members to the state convention stay tuned chapter
>> presidents
>> you may get the chance.
>>
>> Thanks Richard
>>
>>
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