[Ohio-talk] I don't have it in for any airline
COLLEEN ROTH
n8tnv at att.net
Tue Nov 19 17:17:07 UTC 2013
Hi,
The last time I traveled by plane my cane was taken. I can't figure out how I was supposed to move without it.
This was before 2001 so I imagine it's much worse now.
Colleen Roth
----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] I don't have it in for any airline
>
>
> That is interesting that they took your cane from you unless it didn't
> fold. Several years ago some of us from the Cincinnati NFB chapter
> went down to the airport and were told that they would take your
> folding cane and inspect it by hand. Then they would give it back to
> you to get through the gate. It sounds like we need to not only
> educate the airport staff but learn the regulations ourselves. Great
> possible presentation for the next state convention.
>
> On 11/16/13, Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have not traveled by air much, but I had an interesting experience
> > when I traveled this summer. My trip down to the NFB convention went
> > fine, but then again I had my mother with me till I boarded at
> > Cincinnati because she wanted to see me off. I got through the
> > Orlando airport and onto the shuttle to go to the hotel without
> > incident, and the airline volunteer who escorted me was fantastic. On
> > the morning I was supposed to go home I arrived at the airport and got
> > through luggage check and got my boarding pass myself, but asked to
> > have an escort help me get to my gate from there because I did not
> > remember the way and didn't want to miss my flight. This worker was
> > not as good as the one I got a few days before. First, I explained
> > that it was best for my notetaker to be examined by hand rather than
> > sent through a scanner, and instead of taking me to the examiner so I
> > could hand it off like the attendant in the Cincinnati airport did he
> > took it from the bin in which I had unloaded all my things that were
> > in my backpack for examination. Then when I asked where it was he
> > didn't give me a straight answer. I did get it back, but it was scary
> > because he started walking with me somewhere else with all of my other
> > things until I refused to go any further without the notetaker. He
> > went back and got it, but just left me in the middle of the airport
> > when I had said I would go back and get it if he would give me some
> > direction. Once I got it back I was a little happier, and he was
> > pretty good for the most part in taking me where I wanted to go. (to
> > the restroom, to buy a bottle of water so I could take a decongestant
> > before boarding, etc). The only troubling thing after that, and the
> > most troubling part of my whole travel experience, was that once he
> > got to the gate that was on my boarding pass he left me. I noticed
> > that a lot of people were exiting the gate, and asked a nearby family
> > if something had changed. Sure enough, they said that the screen
> > showing the flight information had announced a change of gate shortly
> > before the airline attendant dropped me off at the gate, and the
> > mother and the teenaged daughter in the family were particularly
> > troubled that he did not check the information and just hurried away
> > because they were sure that he should have given me that information.
> > They were able to give me directions to get to the correct gate so I
> > didn't miss my flight home, and thankfully everything else was fine.
> >
> > I'm sure the airport was really packed with tons of blind people going
> > home that particular day, and I even ran into quite a few even though
> > I got to the airport at 5:30 in the morning. I think there is much
> > more education than just the cane and dog stuff that needs to happen,
> > and it really needs to be at a deeper level because it is not just a
> > regional thing, but even within airports there are different levels of
> > service and awareness from employee to employee.
> >
> > I will say though that I think the work done at CVG has paid off. I
> > was pleasantly surprised when I got up to the scanners and an
> > attendant asked if I would like to use a graphite cane the airport
> > kept around while mine went through the metal detector. They were
> > also a lot more transparent with what they were doing to my notetaker,
> > and took care of things in a quicker manner than the Orlando airport
> > did on my return trip which I appreciated. I think a slight language
> > barrier might have been some of the problem with the second guy in
> > Orlando, and though I traveled at around the same time for both
> > flights I think traveling on a Monday morning was much easier than
> > traveling on a Saturday because the second trip was definitely busier;
> > however, I still don't understand why he would start taking me
> > somewhere without one of my belongings and not stop until I absolutely
> > refused to go further without it.
> >
> > Perhaps some energy can be put specifically on the Orlando airport,
> > since that is going to be an important one for the next several years.
> >
> > On 11/16/13, Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Great news, looking forward to it!
> >> C
> >>
> >> On 11/16/13, COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net> wrote:
> >>> Hi Cheryl and Marianne,
> >>> I think NAGDU will probably ask xs' Divisions in each State to
> >>> coordinate
> >>> some educational activities.
> >>> I do think that all of us in the NFB whether whether we have a dog or
> >>> not
> >>> should know policies in effect in case we are in a situation where this
> >>> knowledge might be helpful.
> >>> I for one want Gudide Dod users to be able to use their dogs for
> >>> independent
> >>> travel. At the same time I want my right to avoid sitting by one to be
> >>> respected.
> >>> Many of you at the Convention know of my major fear and respect my
> >>> feelings.
> >>> For that I am truly grateful. This has taken a long time.
> >>> I am no longer put down or harassed. By the same token, I no longer hate
> >>> dogs with the exception of Pitt Bulls.
> >>> I just want my space and dogs to be on leashes.
> >>> I will stand up for your rights have a dog. I always did this but was
> >>> happy
> >>> when I really didn't need to do anything.
> >>> In recent years, I have spoken up for blind people in Toledo who had
> >>> issues.
> >>> I referred them to other Guide dog users but still stayed involved.
> >>> I by recently at a meeting where someones's guide dog had to be chased
> >>> and
> >>> brought back to her owner.
> >>> This shouldn't happen. Guide dog handlers should be in control of their
> >>> dogs.
> >>> Have a gr day and fight for airline equity for all.
> >>> Colleen Roth
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Cheryl Fields <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>> Date: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:00 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] I don't have it in for any airline
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mary Ann,
> >>>>
> >>>> Some years ago I had a dog and I never had a problem traveling, by air
> >>>> or bus. The majority of my problems were with people and their cars,
> >>>> smiles, my dog was big and they always wanted him to get in the back
> >>>> seat.
> >>>> Do you think we should have some guide dog users and wheel chair users
> >>>> schedule some conversations with local administration of airlines to
> >>>> offer some education for their employees? This could be helpful and
> >>>> get directly to the problems.So many airline employees move from city
> >>>> to city, once educated they can spread the word and learn about the
> >>>> nfb.
> >>>>
> >>>> Blessings,
> >>>> cheryl
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/14/13, Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Please don't think I hate any airline. It looks like there is a
> >>>> > pattern developing at U.S. Airways and that is of concern.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > —
> >>>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> >>>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> >>>> > (513) 607-6053
> >>>> >
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
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> >> Peace
> >>
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> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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