[Ohio-talk] Interesting Read

[Colleen Roth]

Hi Marianne,
Unfortunately some parents do not know how to advocate for their children or for themselves for that matter.
It is not up to the college or university to teach this skill.
Are we coddling students so much in the Public School and doing so much for some of them that they do not know how to advocate for themselves? I know that some School Districts do not help students enough but some Districts do so much for the student and there is an ever-present Paraprofessional there meeting every need.
I am not talking about every district or every student. 
I would like to see students learn how to talk to their Teachers and explain certain needs to them.
For example, if a teacher talks as they write this would help not just the blind student but all students who learn more by listening.
I think students should be taught to take notes for themselves and do this in high school and college.
Admittedly there are some things which would be better relayed via a handout.
I would imagine that when you take your own notes you would write down the things you would want to remember. A scribe would write down what they thought was important or worth remembering.
In the real world after college you will not have someone to take notes for you.
I think that students should take the responsibility of meeting with their teachers before a new semester begins if possible.
They should also try to get any materials ahead of time for the new semester so they can start studying on break before that semester.
Colleen Roth



----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Monday, Apr 7, 2014 04:49:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Interesting Read

>
>
> Colleen, I agree with you that public schools do not teach students to
> advocate for themselves.  I would add that parents do not do this
> either. I don't believe it is the responsibility of the colleges and
> universities to provide this training.  Any student, disabled or not,
> needs to be able to talk to people about their needs in college.  I
> think medical documentation or an IEP can help a school understand
> student needs better.  I do agree that if there is an obvious
> disability it should speak for itself.  I often know my needs better
> than all of the professionals who have ever worked with me.
> 
> It was a good article and interesting to understand the position of
> the universities.  We need to remove the stigma related to any
> disability and teach students to discuss their own personal disability
> and how it impacts their education.
> 
> On 4/7/14, COLLEEN ROTH <n8tnv at att.net> wrote:
> >  Hello JW.
> > I found the Article about Disability Service Offices very interesting. I
> > think in some ways things are worse now for students than they were before.
> > Students are not expected to advocate for themselves in High School and are
> > therefore not prepared to do so after High School.
> > Some colleges want Medical Documentation in cases where it is obvious the
> > person has a Disability.
> > For instance, when I signed up to take the Computer Class for Beginners at
> > Owens they needed a document verifying my blindness. It really should have
> > been obvious from the interview when I took in a Slate and stylus and a
> > Victor Stream.
> > Maybe some students do not know what they can expect from a college and what
> > their responsibilities are.
> > Sometimes starting out at a small college is a good thing.
> > This really was an interesting Article and I for one appreciated your
> > pasting it into the email.
> > Colleen Roth
> >
> >
> >
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> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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