[Ohio-talk] Ohio-talk Digest, Vol 86, Issue 15; ACB
meandthedog at oberlin.net
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Mon Apr 20 11:02:40 UTC 2015
>
When i went o get MS. P. the blind students had a big debate about both
organizations.
The trainer said. "You are here to learn about you new dog and training.
Lets not about
about those two groups.
i was away and didn't know about the discussion. It is interesting. I do
not think, NFB. is
all that militant. We work through the system.
My problem is that the system is so currant and our power is defused.
We do get things done, but I am not sure that being one organization is
the answer.
Me and MS. P.
I, too, was once a member of ACB. II t seems that there is much
> less
> difference between the two organizations than there was before. I think
> that
> it's sad that there can't be one strong organization for the blind. Katie,
> music therapy went through the same thing, as you probably know. NAMT and
> AAMT united to form AMTA, and the music therapy field is much better off.
> It
> could be the same with the blind community. Different circumstances call
> for
> different approaches.
>
> Jeanne Gallagher
> jeanne_gallagher at sbcglobal.net
>
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> 1. Jernigan fund drawing tickets (Shelbi Hindel)
> 2. Re: Jernigan fund drawing tickets (Cheryl Fields)
> 3. FW: [Community-service] National Volunteer Week Proclamation
> (Cheryl Fields)
> 4. NFB and ACB (Kaiti Shelton)
> 5. Re: NFB and ACB (NMPBRAT at aol.com)
> 6. Re: NFB and ACB (David Cohen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:51:35 -0400
> From: "Shelbi Hindel" <shelbiah1 at gmail.com>
> To: "ohio talk" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Jernigan fund drawing tickets
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Ohio has been sent forty Jernigan fund drawing tickets to sell. The
> proceeds
> from this drawing go to assist first-time convention attendees. Each
> ticket costs $10. The winner receives convention attendance for two people
> and $1,000 cash to spend. The chapter or division of the person who sells
> the winning ticket receives $500. Presidents of chapters and divisions
> should let me know by email or phone how many tickets you and your
> members
> can sell. I will send the tickets to you. Ohio will pay for these tickets
> if
> they are not sold, as I understand it.
>
> Shelbi
>
>
>
> Shelbiah1 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> (614) 558-8059
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:48:54 -0400
> From: "Cheryl Fields" <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Shelbi Hindel'" <shelbiah1 at gmail.com>, "'NFB of Ohio
> Announcement and Discussion List'" <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Jernigan fund drawing tickets
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> Hi Shelbie, I am on the phone with William, he says hello. The Cleveland
> chapter would like to request 7 tickets. Please mail to me at;
> Cheryl fields
> Post Office Box 202091
> Cleveland, Ohio 44120
> Thanks and you may call me at; 216.932.6644. Thanks, Cheryl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shelbi
> Hindel via Ohio-talk
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:52 PM
> To: ohio talk
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Jernigan fund drawing tickets
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Ohio has been sent forty Jernigan fund drawing tickets to sell. The
> proceeds
> from this drawing go to assist first-time convention attendees. Each
> ticket costs $10. The winner receives convention attendance for two people
> and $1,000 cash to spend. The chapter or division of the person who sells
> the winning ticket receives $500. Presidents of chapters and divisions
> should let me know by email or phone how many tickets you and your
> members
> can sell. I will send the tickets to you. Ohio will pay for these tickets
> if
> they are not sold, as I understand it.
>
> Shelbi
>
>
>
> Shelbiah1 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> (614) 558-8059
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:27:47 -0400
> From: "Cheryl Fields" <cherylelaine1957 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'"
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: charlenebolden at att.net, bryantealysr at yahoo.com, Nricks123 at me.com,
> neptune3775 at yahoo.com, cantseecutie at att.net
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] FW: [Community-service] National Volunteer Week
> Proclamation
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> Hello, This was posted on the community service list and I wanted to
> share.
> The Cleveland chapter is involved in community service, individually and
> collectively. I am sure most of you are active in your communities too. If
> you aren?t, consider getting involved! Blessings, Cheryl fields
>
>
>
> From: Community-service [mailto:community-service-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Darian Smith via Community-service
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 9:47 AM
> Subject: [Community-service] National Volunteer Week Proclamation
>
>
>
> Each week @NFBCSDivision, the official twitter handle for the National
> Federation of the Blind Community Service Division tweets out and
> re-tweets
> out interesting, informative and inspiring content.
>
> earlier this week the Presidential Proclamation for National Volunteer
> Week was posted to the National Service blog and was tweeted out from
> there.
> We re-tweeted this information and we thought we might share what you
> are
> missing!
>
> If you like, please feel free to share your thoughts on our 44th
> president?s words.
>
> the text is included here:
>
>
>
>
> <http://nationalservice.tumblr.com/post/116311995777/2015-national-volunteer-week-presidential>
> 2015 National Volunteer Week Presidential Proclamation
>
>
>
>
> As a Nation, our greatest resource is our people. We each have the power
> to
> strengthen the fabric of our society and make the world a better place.
> Every day, Americans across the country realize this enormous potential
> through service to others and by giving back to their communities. During
> National Volunteer Week, we recognize those who embrace a life of active,
> energetic, and engaged citizenship, and we reaffirm our belief that all
> people have something to contribute to the American story.
>
> This spirit of service is deeply embedded in our culture and vital to our
> national character. It reflects the idea that we are each our brothers?
> and
> our sisters? keepers, and it is a core part of being an American. Through
> service, ordinary people can make an extraordinary impact. In times of
> tragedy, volunteers are a source of comfort and resilience; in places of
> great need, they offer hope and renew our faith that a brighter day lies
> ahead; and in small neighborhoods and bustling cities, these dedicated
> individuals help build ladders of opportunity for people of all ages and
> backgrounds. Volunteers ? often with few resources and little recognition
> ?
> make enormous sacrifices to lift up the people around them as well as
> those
> they may never meet. As they do, they give new life to the values that
> bind
> us together as Americans and to the promise that those who love their
> country can change it.
>
> My Administration is working to empower more Americans with opportunities
> to
> give back to their neighborhoods and to our country, and we are committed
> to
> supporting those who already do. That is why we created a task force to
> find
> new ways to expand and improve national service. And last year we launched
> the
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/special-initiatives/employers-national-service>
> Employers of National Service initiativebecause we know those who are
> passionate about making a difference in their communities have the talents
> and experience to bolster our Nation?s workforce. Through the
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/> Corporation for National and Community
> Service, we are investing in programs like
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/programs/americorps> AmeriCorps and
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/programs/senior-corps> Senior Corps, and
> we
> have expanded the scope of these opportunities ? initiatives such as
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/programs/senior-corps> School Turnaround
> AmeriCorps,
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/justice-department-and-cncs-announce-new-partnership-enhance>
> justice AmeriCorps, and
> <http://www.nationalservice.gov/special-initiatives/task-force-expanding-national-service/stem-americorps>
> STEM AmeriCorps are focusing on some of our country?s most pressing needs.
>
> The unending task of perfecting our Nation does not fall to any one person
> or to our Government alone ? and the solutions to the problems we face do
> not lie beyond our reach. We must enlist all Americans in the effort to
> build a better future for the next generation, and we should each make
> service a lifelong commitment. Together, we can work to meet our Nation?s
> challenges, not just for one day, but every day. This week, let us renew
> our commitment to this important cause and rededicate ourselves to the
> work
> ahead.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of
> America,
> by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws
> of
> the United States, do hereby proclaim April 12 through April 18, 2015, as
> National Volunteer Week. I call upon all Americans to observe this week by
> volunteering in service projects across our country and pledging to make
> service a part of their daily lives. To find a service opportunity nearby,
> visit <http://www.serve.gov/> www.Serve.gov.
>
> IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this tenth day of April,
> in
> the year of our Lord two thousand fifteen, and of the Independence of the
> United States of America the two hundred and thirty-ninth.
>
> BARACK OBAMA
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 21:52:19 -0400
> From: Kaiti Shelton <kaiti.shelton at gmail.com>
> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ohio-talk] NFB and ACB
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> Hi all,
>
> One of the things I've been working on this semester, and talked a
> little bit about on the list recently, is an organization for students
> with disabilities and allies on UD's campus. My partner in crime in
> this is another blind student, and it is interesting how things have
> worked out. We seem to have very similar attitudes about independence
> and are in agreement on how to work to make disability less of a taboo
> topic of conversation on campus, but I'm a Federationist and she's an
> ACB member. It's interesting because sometimes in conversations we'll
> dance around mentioning the different organizations. For example, the
> other day she said, "I went to a conference in October and-something
> about BSVI." I know it was the ACB convention, so I'm wondering why
> there needs to be the secrecy about it. I doubt she's intentionally
> doing it-it's probably passed down through the generations.
>
> I'm guilty of this, too. Though I have not been shy about my
> allegiance and have specifically said things like, "I heard this at an
> NFB thing," I have not done it as much as I normally would. I am also
> guilty of not wanting to do anything with the ACB. Until Dr. Maurer
> made a comment telling me I should apply for ACB scholarships at the
> last conventions I never applied simply because I didn't agree with
> the organization's approach. I also heard horror stories of NFB
> people being announced as "The other camp" as they entered ACB
> functions, and didn't want to be treated like that so I never thought
> of attending anything they sponsored.
>
> It really got me thinking about how the organizations are still at
> odds with each other today. It's funny, too, because when I've
> mentioned things like, "We could do something for Meet the Blind
> Month," the reaction is just like, "Oh, an NFB thing." I wouldn't
> quite describe it as disappointment, but definitely something along
> those lines. While I personally don't agree with the approach the ACB
> takes as an organization, I won't judge someone who does. I know a
> few people who have had membership in both organizations
> simultaneously and like them. I don't think I've ever met a full ACB
> person, though, so this is something new. I really like her and her
> attitude about things is very similar to mine, so this is puzzling me.
> I would love to use opportunities in the club to promote things like
> Meet the Blind Month, or use a fundraiser to possibly get some funds
> for BELL as a service event, but in this instance I feel obligated to
> keep it neutral. Thoughts?
>
> --
> Kaiti Shelton
> University of Dayton 2016.
> Music Therapy, Psychology, Philosophy
> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 01:07:48 -0400
> From: NMPBRAT at aol.com
> To: kaiti.shelton at gmail.com, ohio-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] NFB and ACB
> Message-ID: <1947b9.62fcc06f.42649224 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Well, I too am a member of both organizations. I think for me, I agree
> with some aspects of each organizations philosophies....and disagree with
> others. I'm kind of that way with politics as well, I guess....in that,
> I
> don't hold a hard party line. I think you can be a part of both if you
> are
> willing to respect and appreciate each organization's beliefs, strengths,
> and what they can "bring to the table"....as I personally see merit in
> both.
> Just my thoughts!
> Respectfully,
> Nicole
>
>
> In a message dated 4/18/2015 9:52:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> One of the things I've been working on this semester, and talked a
> little bit about on the list recently, is an organization for students
> with disabilities and allies on UD's campus. My partner in crime in
> this is another blind student, and it is interesting how things have
> worked out. We seem to have very similar attitudes about independence
> and are in agreement on how to work to make disability less of a taboo
> topic of conversation on campus, but I'm a Federationist and she's an
> ACB member. It's interesting because sometimes in conversations we'll
> dance around mentioning the different organizations. For example, the
> other day she said, "I went to a conference in October and-something
> about BSVI." I know it was the ACB convention, so I'm wondering why
> there needs to be the secrecy about it. I doubt she's intentionally
> doing it-it's probably passed down through the generations.
>
> I'm guilty of this, too. Though I have not been shy about my
> allegiance and have specifically said things like, "I heard this at an
> NFB thing," I have not done it as much as I normally would. I am also
> guilty of not wanting to do anything with the ACB. Until Dr. Maurer
> made a comment telling me I should apply for ACB scholarships at the
> last conventions I never applied simply because I didn't agree with
> the organization's approach. I also heard horror stories of NFB
> people being announced as "The other camp" as they entered ACB
> functions, and didn't want to be treated like that so I never thought
> of attending anything they sponsored.
>
> It really got me thinking about how the organizations are still at
> odds with each other today. It's funny, too, because when I've
> mentioned things like, "We could do something for Meet the Blind
> Month," the reaction is just like, "Oh, an NFB thing." I wouldn't
> quite describe it as disappointment, but definitely something along
> those lines. While I personally don't agree with the approach the ACB
> takes as an organization, I won't judge someone who does. I know a
> few people who have had membership in both organizations
> simultaneously and like them. I don't think I've ever met a full ACB
> person, though, so this is something new. I really like her and her
> attitude about things is very similar to mine, so this is puzzling me.
> I would love to use opportunities in the club to promote things like
> Meet the Blind Month, or use a fundraiser to possibly get some funds
> for BELL as a service event, but in this instance I feel obligated to
> keep it neutral. Thoughts?
>
> --
> Kaiti Shelton
> University of Dayton 2016.
> Music Therapy, Psychology, Philosophy
> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:32:56 -0400
> From: David Cohen <adcohen823 at gmail.com>
> To: NMPBRAT at aol.com, NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] NFB and ACB
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> This is one of the best emails I have had the pleasure of reading
> since joining Ohio Talk.
>
> On 4/19/15, Nicole Poston via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well, I too am a member of both organizations. I think for me, I agree
>> with some aspects of each organizations philosophies....and disagree
>> with
>> others. I'm kind of that way with politics as well, I guess....in
>> that,
>> I
>>
>> don't hold a hard party line. I think you can be a part of both if
>> you
>> are
>> willing to respect and appreciate each organization's beliefs,
>> strengths,
>> and what they can "bring to the table"....as I personally see merit in
>> both.
>> Just my thoughts!
>> Respectfully,
>> Nicole
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/18/2015 9:52:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org writes:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of the things I've been working on this semester, and talked a
>> little bit about on the list recently, is an organization for students
>> with disabilities and allies on UD's campus. My partner in crime in
>> this is another blind student, and it is interesting how things have
>> worked out. We seem to have very similar attitudes about independence
>> and are in agreement on how to work to make disability less of a taboo
>> topic of conversation on campus, but I'm a Federationist and she's an
>> ACB member. It's interesting because sometimes in conversations we'll
>> dance around mentioning the different organizations. For example, the
>> other day she said, "I went to a conference in October and-something
>> about BSVI." I know it was the ACB convention, so I'm wondering why
>> there needs to be the secrecy about it. I doubt she's intentionally
>> doing it-it's probably passed down through the generations.
>>
>> I'm guilty of this, too. Though I have not been shy about my
>> allegiance and have specifically said things like, "I heard this at an
>> NFB thing," I have not done it as much as I normally would. I am also
>> guilty of not wanting to do anything with the ACB. Until Dr. Maurer
>> made a comment telling me I should apply for ACB scholarships at the
>> last conventions I never applied simply because I didn't agree with
>> the organization's approach. I also heard horror stories of NFB
>> people being announced as "The other camp" as they entered ACB
>> functions, and didn't want to be treated like that so I never thought
>> of attending anything they sponsored.
>>
>> It really got me thinking about how the organizations are still at
>> odds with each other today. It's funny, too, because when I've
>> mentioned things like, "We could do something for Meet the Blind
>> Month," the reaction is just like, "Oh, an NFB thing." I wouldn't
>> quite describe it as disappointment, but definitely something along
>> those lines. While I personally don't agree with the approach the ACB
>> takes as an organization, I won't judge someone who does. I know a
>> few people who have had membership in both organizations
>> simultaneously and like them. I don't think I've ever met a full ACB
>> person, though, so this is something new. I really like her and her
>> attitude about things is very similar to mine, so this is puzzling me.
>> I would love to use opportunities in the club to promote things like
>> Meet the Blind Month, or use a fundraiser to possibly get some funds
>> for BELL as a service event, but in this instance I feel obligated to
>> keep it neutral. Thoughts?
>>
>> --
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton 2016.
>> Music Therapy, Psychology, Philosophy
>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>> Sigma Alpha Iota-Delta Sigma
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ohio-talk mailing list
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