[Ohio-talk] Hearing of Blind People was RE: interesting information

Wed Oct 28 16:43:24 UTC 2015

Maybe they speak loudly because we lack intelligence.  (smile)

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Rachel Kuntz via Ohio-talk <
ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> It's interesting to me that people can believe that we have super hearing
> while simultaneously believing they need to speak very loudly to the blind.
>
> Warmly,
> Rachel Kuntz
>
> > On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:41 AM, James Fetter via Ohio-talk <
> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Having never heard through a sighted person's ears or, to be more
> accurate, processed sounds through a sighted person's brain, I am not even
> sure how it works in my case. And, believe me, my brain is confused all the
> time, though that has more to do with being a first year law student than
> any issue of rewiring.
> >
> >
> >> On 10/28/2015 9:37 AM, Robert Spangler via Ohio-talk wrote:
> >> I wonder how this works for someone like me who was able to see large
> print,
> >> colors and such until about age 4 and now just see shapes, shadows and
> >> light?  I would imagine that someone who has always been completely
> blind
> >> would benefit more from the brain rewiring.
> >>
> >> Wow, my brain has to be super confused!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> James
> >> Fetter via Ohio-talk
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:33 AM
> >> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: James Fetter <jtfetter at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hearing of Blind People was RE: interesting
> >> information
> >>
> >> Based on the research that has been done, it appears that those who were
> >> born blind or went blind sufficiently early in life were able to
> rewire, as
> >> it were, portions of their visual cortex to process sounds. I have no
> idea
> >> what specific impact this may have on one's ability to hear as such; at
> >> most, I would think that it would allow one to construct a better
> mental map
> >> of one's surroundings based on sound alone. It may or may not also have
> >> something to do with having perfect pitch; I was born blind and do have
> >> perfect pitch, but I have no idea whether or not this is typical.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 10/28/2015 9:19 AM, Robert Spangler via Ohio-talk wrote:
> >>> I use that statement because I don't want sighted people thinking
> >>> that, by some supernatural power, we have this amazing level of
> >>> hearing.  Sorry to be blunt but people are just that silly.  I really
> >>> do wonder, though, if our hearing is different due to natural brain
> >> activity.
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Walter Mitchell via Ohio-talk
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:31 AM
> >>> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> >>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Walter Mitchell <wmitch at zoomtown.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] Hearing of Blind People was RE: interesting
> >>> information
> >>>
> >>> I feel that your observation is on point. I hear that statement on a
> >>> regular basis, and I never thought to answer with my hearing is more
> >>> skilled than their's. The more I think about it, the more sense that
> >> makes.
> >>> Much Love,
> >>> Walter
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Robert Spangler via Ohio-talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:14 PM
> >>> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> >>> Cc: Robert Spangler
> >>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] Hearing of Blind People was RE: interesting
> >>> information
> >>>
> >>> The article also mentioned that a blind person's ability to hear and
> >>> other senses I'd imagine as well are actually better due to the brain
> >>> remapping parts used for vision to those other senses.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not disputing this but I'm tired of sighted people thinking that I
> >>> have some superman hearing.  I'm sure you've all heard a sentence
> >>> like, "I've heard that when you're blind...." and you can finish it
> >>> with "Yeah yeah, our senses are better."
> >>>
> >>> I always explain that my hearing isn't necessarily better; rather,
> >>> I've been trained to use my hearing along with my other senses instead
> >>> of using my eyes.  So, of course, they will be better in that case.
> >>> When we cross streets, we pay more attention to auditory information;
> >>> thus, our hearing is more skilled than that of a sighted person.
> >>>
> >>> What do you guys think?
> >>>
> >>> Robby
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Walter Mitchell via Ohio-talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 5:19 PM
> >>> To: 'NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List'
> >>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Walter Mitchell <wmitch at zoomtown.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] interesting information
> >>>
> >>> I totally agree. It was funny to me to realize that people would think
> >>> that just because people are blind, that they could not recognize the
> >>> cultural differences people naturally possess. I am not always
> >>> correct, but I can talk to someone and figure out their ethnicity from
> >>> their dialect as well use of the English language. Please don't
> >>> confuse this process with steriotyping, but that is the method that I
> >>> use. If someone have a better method, please chime in, I'm interested
> in
> >> knowing.
> >>>
> >>> Much Love,
> >>> Walter Mitchell
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:58 PM
> >>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >>> Cc: Marianne Denning
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] interesting information
> >>>
> >>> Walter, I thought the one about race was humorous.  It is so stupid to
> >>> think that blind people are color blind.
> >>> We are no different than the society that raises us.
> >>>> On 10/27/15, Walter Mitchell via Ohio-talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Marianne,
> >>>>
> >>>> I read the articles and they were interesting. The articles that I
> >>>> found most interesting and entertaining was the ones about deja vue,
> >>>> race and the one about the mice detecting there surroundings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for the link.
> >>>>
> >>>> Much Love,
> >>>> Walter Mitchell
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Ohio-talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Marianne Denning via Ohio-talk
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:41 AM
> >>>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> >>>> Cc: Marianne Denning
> >>>> Subject: [Ohio-talk] interesting information
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought I would share this article about research on blindness in
> >>>> all kinds of situations.  I would like to know people's comments.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://listverse.com/2015/10/25/10-fascinating-insights-into-the-worl
> >>>> d
> >>>> -of-bl
> >>>> indness/
> >>>>
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053