[Ohio-talk] [External] Re: OOD and braille instruction

Sun Jan 15 23:48:11 UTC 2017

Thx Eric, Blessings


On 1/12/17, Robert Spangler via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Can you please explain to me the importance of having separate bureaus?  Why
> not just have OOD with counselors which specialize in mental disabilities,
> those that specialize in blindness, etc?  What's the importance of the
> structure?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eric
> Duffy via Ohio-Talk
> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 11:04 AM
> To: marianne via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Eric Duffy <peduffy63 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] [External] Re: OOD and braille instruction
>
> I don't participate much on this list these days, but this discussion is too
> important too pass by. In all but a few cases a blind person should always
> be asigned BSVI.
> Blindness is the primary disability.
>
> As far as the name goes I just want to remind everyone that it is imrotant
> that we get it right even if they don't. We have often had to fight to keep
> a separate bureau. We must understand the structure and  at the worst defend
> it as it is, and at best improve it. Ohio  has  a real budget  crisis and
> Human Services is always easy pickings.
>
> Eric
>
> On Jan 6, 2017 10:13 AM, marianne via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add that there are times when an individual has a
>> counselor who is not working under BSVI. This further causes problems. It
>> also seems like there is constant turnover in BSVI so the counselors have
>> no knowledge of blindness or the needs of people who are blind.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Payne, Richard (Synchrony Financial) via Ohio-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 8:23 AM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Payne, Richard (Synchrony Financial) <richard.payne at syf.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] [External] Re: OOD and braille instruction
>>
>> Yes this is correct but when Bob and others email us they reference to
>> OOD  not BSVI. I think it is very easy to say the name wrong. I was in
>> a meeting with OODD and another group last year and they  constantly
>> refered  to NFBO as AFB so that is common. I do agree that the name is
>> important. Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> barbara.pierce9366--- via Ohio-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:07 AM
>> To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
>> <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
>> Subject: [External] Re: [Ohio-talk] OOD and braille instruction
>>
>> Please, let’s get it right. OOD is the new name for the Rehabilitation
>> Services Commission, not BSVI. Richard made this slip on the convention
>> platform, and Bob Nicholson corrected him instantly. This may not seem
>> very important to some of us, but we undermine our contention that we are
>> serious players at the state level when we get these names wrong. Sorry to
>> be passionate about this, but I do think it is important. RSC became OOD.
>> BSVI has been BSVI since the seventies when its name was changed from BSB,
>> the Bureau of Services for the Blind.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Barbara
>> Barbara Pierce
>> President Emerita
>> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Barbara.pierce9366 at gmail.com
>> 440-774-8077
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
>> blindness is not what holds you back.
>>
>> > On Jan 5, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Marianne Denning via Ohio-Talk
>> > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does everyone remember that at our state conventions we have been
>> > told that bblind adults do not want to learn braille in Ohio so it
>> > is not needed here? Also, on the rare occasion when someone requests
>> > braille the individual is referred to Hadley. I have been doing some
>> > research.
>> > I have learned that when braille is recommended by a rehabilitation
>> > teacher OOD counselors will not provide the service. I have also
>> > learned that if someone wants other training from a vision rehab
>> > therapist it is usually limited to four hours of service. I
>> > understand this is in an effort to hold down costs but this severely
>> > limits the ability of a blind adult to learn skills to live
>> > independently. I do not blame the counselors for this but the people at
>> > the top of OOD.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> > (513) 607-6053
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