[Ohio-talk] service animals

Mon Oct 16 16:37:00 UTC 2017

That may be true for some service animals but not all. My guide dog wears a
harness. I am not sure of the requirements for other types of service dogs.
Currently, people can use service dogs for any number of reasons, some not
obvious to the general public. I don't have a problem with anyone having a
dog anywhere as long as the dog is well behaved. I have a problem with any
dog, service dog or not, if they are not behaving. I have had a guide dog
for over 25 years and I have been embarrassed by some of the things my dogs
have done. It is very rare, but dogs are not perfect. I do reprimand my
dogs when they are not behaving properly. Also, according to the Air
Carriers Act, an emotional support animal can travel in the cabin with an
individual. I recently flew from Seattle to Cincinnati and the pilot said
there were 7 dogs in the cabin. I do not know the status of all of those
dogs. Also, according to the ACA the animal does not have to be a dog. It
can be any animal. You must have a note from your doctor that it is an
emotional support animal, but how hard is that to get?

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Barbara Shaidnagle via Ohio-Talk <
ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I have seen dogs at conventions that do wear jackets that say GUIDE DOG.  I
> have seen other service dogs wearing a jacket that says SERVICE DOG.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Deborah Kendrick via Ohio-Talk <
> ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Everyone,
> > Please, please read and write carefully when sharing information that
> > references law.
> > I find this post very troubling in that if it was actually printed as a
> > Dear
> > Abby column, a newspaper source many read and regard as trustworthy, it
> is
> > full of errors.
> > Guide dogs do not wear jackets. They wear harnesses.
> > Nowhere is there any nonsense rule about scratching dogs only under the
> > chin
> > if permission has been granted.
> > Many of the leading schools training dogs for blind people have been
> > actively working to dispel the incorrect information circulating about
> our
> > dogs, not to mention the rapidly growing number of fake service dogs.
> This
> > article is the kind of thing that is really troublesome.
> > I don't have a dog currently, but know how much my friends with trained
> > dogs
> > depend on them for safety, and a stupid article like this one really
> > screams
> > for our attention.
> > Back to my corner...
> > Deborah
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Marianne
> > Denning via Ohio-Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:54 AM
> > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> > Cc: Marianne Denning
> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] service animals
> >
> > First, the woman who was checking the woman out had every right to ask
> that
> > question. According to the ADA an employee can ask 2 questions, was that
> > dog
> > specifically trained to do a task and what task was it trained to do. The
> > person with the dog was absolutely wrong in this situation. BTW, HIPA
> only
> > covers medical facilities. I don't think it applies to retail stores.
> Since
> > the Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users has been working with the Ohio
> law
> > regarding service animals we have become very familiar with ADA
> > requirements. Thanks for pointing this out to us.
> >
> > On 10/14/17, Wanda Sloan via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > > Thank you Barbara.  I feel the same as you do.  As an NFB member, we
> > > are to educate the public in a tactful way as not to be rude or
> > > insulting to an inquiring person.
> > >
> > > Wan Sloan
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ohio-Talk [mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Barbara Shaidnagle via Ohio-Talk
> > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:58 AM
> > > To: NFB of Ohio Announcement and Discussion List
> > > <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Cc: Barbara Shaidnagle <bshaid at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Ohio-talk] service animals
> > >
> > > I am concerned at times about an animal designated as a service animal
> > > especially when they are not wearing a jacket, merely accompanying the
> > > person.  And I  told one person at the airport in Bham a year ago,
> > > "you are what gives guide dogs a bad name..."
> > >
> > > DEAR ABBY: Yesterday I was in a retail store with my service dog. The
> > > clerk asked me what kind of service dog she was and I replied, She's
> > > my service dog. She kept pressing me as to exactly why I have one, so
> > > I asked her if she was inquiring about my disability. When she said,
> > > Yes, I politely informed her that federal HIPAA laws protect my right
> > > to privacy. She then said -- loud enough for everyone in the store to
> > > hear -- I don't know what the big deal is. I just want to know what the
> > dog does for you.
> > >
> > > Please let your readers know how to be around a person and their
> > > service
> > > animal:
> > >
> > > 1. You do *not* have the right to ask about the person's disability.
> > > To do so is rude. Most people prefer strangers not know their medical
> > condition.
> > > The dog may be for PTSD, a hearing or seeing dog, or to alert the
> > > person to a medical emergency.
> > >
> > > 2. Children (and adults) need to understand that when service animals'
> > > jackets go on, the dogs know it's time to go to work, and they take
> > > their job seriously. At that point, they are not pets and should not
> > > be treated as such. If a child rushes a service dog, the animal may
> > > react badly because it is there to protect its person.
> > >
> > > 3. You may ask to pet the dog, but don't assume it will be allowed. If
> > > given permission, the dog should be scratched under the chin *only*.
> > >
> > > Service animals know their place. It's a shame that most people are
> > > not as polite. -- NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
> > >
> > > DEAR N.O.Y.B.: Thank you for sharing this information. According to
> > > the Americans With Disabilities Act website (ada.gov): Businesses may
> > > ask if an animal is a service animal or ask what tasks the animal has
> > > been trained to perform, but cannot require special ID cards for the
> > > animal or ask about the person's disability.
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > > DeColores
> > > Barbara
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