[Ohio-talk] I need some Advice for a job I'm applying for!

vincentf2872 at gmail.com vincentf2872 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 12 21:11:45 UTC 2018 

I only enjoy food service as a backup job.  However, things have changed since I last posted.  I have reopened my case with BSVI, and plan to apply for reasonable employment as soon as I can move back into the Cleveland area.  I already have some job leads that I am more than qualified for.

However, I do want to state that I have applied for employment on my own, I know how to do a job interview and write a resumeI have a college background, but I have never been employed by an employer, and most of those times I find it was because I was blind; I have only found employment through self-employment, CABVI and CSC since I have lost my vision.

I know this was true for many reasons because I knew those employers, if they were hiering , and businesses contacts in those organizations have told me.

I agree I should not have to prove myself like I asked, and that was just something I was wondering because it sure does seem like that from my experiances, and I do not mean to sound anecdotal.

Vince Fugate
Email: vincentf2872 at gmail.com

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From: Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of CHRIS TOLLE via Ohio-Talk
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] I need some Advice for a job I'm applying for!

Hi all,

I agree with Richard,  I would pose this question to you. Do they ask all perspective employees to prove their ability to do the job prior to hiring them?   You have skills. You are confident in your abilities to exceed expectations.  Let your work & skills shine for them selves. 

I know the temptation to want to prove you can do a job in order to get a job.  Thing is, it rarely works out the way you might thing it would.  

At the core of it, to ask a blind person to prove that they can do a job, before you would hire them is, well… rather insulting, not on your part, rather on theirs.   Pretty sure that there is a legal issue with that as well.  

I have hired more people in the past 21 years than I can count.  I never ask them to show me the can do it, before I make them an offer.   

I would ask to interview with the new management &  walk through the process just like anyone else would.   

I know where you are. I was in the same spot when I was much much younger.  I thought that if I proved I could do the work, I would be considered an equal with my peers & would be offered the spot.  It didn’t work out that way.  

Do you enjoy food service?   


> On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:09 AM, Richard Payne via Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> That is not true blind people all over the world has already proven it 
> for you.
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> 
> Richard Payne,  President
> 
> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> 
> 937-396-5573or 937/829/3368
> 
> Rchpay7 at gmail.com <mailto:Rchpay7 at gmail.com>
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create 
> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life 
> you want; blindness is not what holds you back
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> <mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Vincent Fugate via 
> Ohio-Talk
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> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] I need some Advice for a job I'm applying for!
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> 
> Richard,
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> 
> 
> I agree, but whenever I apply for a job anywhere I have noticed, and 
> overhear and have been told by staff and managers, that the jobs I 
> apply for will not higher me because of my blindness even if I am more 
> than qualified to do the work, and willing to prove my abilities to do 
> the job.  That is why I am thinking I should tell them I am willing to 
> prove my abilities before they higher me.
> 
> 
> 
> Vince Fugate
> 
> Email: vincentf2872 at gmail.com <mailto:vincentf2872 at gmail.com>
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> From: Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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> <mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> > On Behalf Of Richard Payne 
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> Subject: Re: [Ohio-talk] I need some Advice for a job I'm applying for!
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> You should apply for the job and then your work will speak for itself.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Payne,  President
> 
> National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> 
> 937-396-5573or 937/829/3368
> 
> Rchpay7 at gmail.com <mailto:Rchpay7 at gmail.com> <mailto:Rchpay7 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:Rchpay7 at gmail.com>>
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create 
> obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life 
> you want; blindness is not what holds you back
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ohio-Talk <ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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> <mailto:ohio-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>> > On Behalf Of Vincent Fugate 
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> Subject: [Ohio-talk] I need some Advice for a job I'm applying for!
> 
> 
> 
> I just want to give everyone an update on what I have been up to since 
> I last posted, and I have a question about a good job I'm going to 
> apply for in my area.
> 
> 
> 
> I have not been able to find an apartment at a reasonable price in a 
> good location in the Cleveland area, and I renewed my lease for one 
> more year, but I am not going to give up on finding a better place to live.
> 
> 
> 
> I do have some good news, there is a restaurant in my area that is 
> less than a block away from me, and the Kitchen Manager is willing to work with me.
> All I need to do is apply for the job with the General Manager, and I 
> know both of these people.  The only concern I have is that in the 
> past is that the previous owner would not higher me because of my 
> blindness, but now this place has a new owner, and the Kitchen Manager 
> told me to try to apply for the job again.
> 
> 
> 
> My question is, when I apply for this job I want to tell the General 
> Manager that I am willing to prove my abilities to do the job I am applying for.
> All I will be doing is cooking, food prep, and cleaning all of which 
> is a no brainer for me
> 
> 
> 
> I know I can do this job, and I know that I would be a be a better 
> employee than my sighted counterparts, and the Kitchen Manager agrees, 
> and he said he will back me up.  However, I think I need to show the 
> General Manager I can do the job.
> 
> 
> 
> So what do you think?  Is it ok for me to say I am willing to show you 
> I can do the job before employing me?  I also want to show the 
> management that I am not a liability if the higher me because that is 
> what some people that work there think due to misconceptions about blindness.
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Vince fugate
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> Email: vincentf2872 at gmail.com 
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