[Perform-talk] Talent Show?

Thu Apr 28 17:33:05 UTC 2011

The talent show was going on long before the division took it over. The 
people who perform do not have to meet any particular standard to perform in 
the show. Some people may have more talent than others, and the show is just 
for people to have fun with. If the division was going to use the show to 
promote people, then we would have to set up criteria. I do not think we 
should change the nature of what is suppose to be fun into something 
different. There are people who perform in the show who are not up to most 
peoples idea of talent, but they just like to have fun. Should we tell 
people who do not have talent that they cannot perform, or should we use the 
talent show for what it was meant to be, and that is fun.

As far as the people who are speaking out on the list, we have excepted an 
offer of a person who has some equipment to record the show. The reason that 
I have taken the tone in witch I did, is because some are talking as if the 
division has a hand in recording the show, and we do not. Anybody and 
everybody can record the show, and the sound quality is not the fault of the 
division.

If a person from Sony were to hear a recording and wanted to speak to a 
particular person, the division would help them try and track the person 
down, but we do not keep permanent files of who performs in the show. The 
show is a laidback event that is meant for people to have fun, and for 
people to support their friends and family. The money made from the show 
goes toward our scholarship program.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:20 AM
To: Performing Arts Division list
Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?

Dennis:
With all due respect,
do you not realize how hypocritical the statement below sounds?
(I'm quoting here).

"…The talent show is just another way to enjoy the convention, and the 
careers of blind people are not on the line."

How can they not be?
My reputation as an artist, our reputation as a division, and our NATIONAL 
reputation are all 3 on the line when we perform live, specially when the 
event is broadcast over the web.

Take it from one who is starting his career in the field of audio 
production,
shall we slack ourselves and our standards because its "an in house event?"

What if we were to learn one day that so and so, a Sony producer or one of 
those were going to listen in to our show?
Would we then triple our efforts?

Do you not realize that we must enforce these high standards on and off the 
stage?
In and out of convention?

And do we not have the NATIONAL to help with these kinds of events?
We are not the "national federation of blind performers" we are a division 
of the NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND!!!

Are we not supposed to be the oldest,
the most powerful representative group for the blind, and by the same token, 
are we not a division of such a group?

Do we not preach equality?

Do we not preach that we should show the best of ourselves?

Just because we find ourselves amongst our own people in convention is NO 
EXCUSE for poor quality.

I don't care if only federationists listen to us, or if Sony listen to us.
Our standards should be the same.

And listen to your people… these are musicians, producers, audio personnel 
complaining.

If it were some random federationist who has nothing to do with audio its 
one thing, but we are a group of professionals in the field are we not?
And yet you ignore it as "talk?"
Shocking!!!

Jorge

Jorge

On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Dennis HR Sumlin wrote:

> Hello folks.
> The division puts lots of time and effert into promoting the talents of 
> blind people. See, sound in Sight Volumes 1 and 2, and the Mary Anne Parks 
> scholarship. The talent show is just another way to enjoy the convention, 
> and the careers of blind people are not on the line. If the division were 
> to get imagination fund money, we would put it towards projects that put 
> blind people out there in the mainstreem market. I guess this talent show 
> issue just gives some people something to talk about.
>
> And the beat goes on.....ever lasting.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Peter Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:02 AM
> To: Performing Arts Division list
> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>
> Hello Lisa and everyone,
>
>   And when the potential careers of blind performers are on the line that
> funding must be found or the division should take advantage of free offers
> of help when it is given. Two such offers have been made thus far.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Ostrow" <ostrow5 at comcast.net>
> To: "Performing Arts Division list" <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>
>
> If we had the funding to rent the equipment, such as stage monitors, we
> surely would.  It all comes down to funding, really.
>
> Lisa
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester" 
> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "Performing Arts Division list" <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>
>
>> I couldn't even hear myself, as I was singing with Sarah.
>> I also had trouble hearing Julie.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 4/26/11, Sarah Alawami <marrie12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> No insolt. I did offer to help and learn the equipment. ok I'm not any
>>> good
>>> but I bet I could have done better then who ever did it last year. the
>>> mix
>>> was awful! the sound system coild not be heard in the back. over all the
>>> performance just all around sucked. Ok not the performers, all of them
>>> were
>>> very very very good, but the ingineer just sucked majorly.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>
>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to
>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to 
>>> contact
>>> me
>>> my info is below.
>>>
>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Brett Boyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi. I wonder why this is such sn issue. I mean there are lots of blind
>>>> folks out here who specialize in audio production. I mean if you told 
>>>> me
>>>> the video wasn't great I'd say ok that's a little more understandable
>>>> but
>>>> for sound to be poor quality when that is our primary resource. Granted
>>>> I
>>>> don't know anything about the setup or who was involved. I'm just
>>>> commenting after seeing these few posts today.
>>>> Sorry if I insulted anyone just making an observation.
>>>> bb
>>>>
>>>> Brett Boyer
>>>> Audio Production and voice over
>>>> http://brettboyer.voices.com
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Donahue"
>>>> <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Performing Arts Division list" <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Especially when sound quality has the potential to make or break the
>>>>> career choices of budding blind entertainers. We have enough against 
>>>>> us
>>>>> having to overcome societies attitudes towards the blind. Poor quality
>>>>> audio
>>>>> produced by an organization whose stated mission is to dispel these
>>>>> attitudes and promote the talents and abilities of the blind is
>>>>> producing
>>>>> the program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez"
>>>>> <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Performing Arts Division list" <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah:
>>>>> I'm the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually to me it was quite bad. I asked if i could help but the guy
>>>>>> said
>>>>>> Oh no I work wiht my own people basically  so Yeah I don't think I'll
>>>>>> participate if i go this year becaus of that. If theuy don't need my
>>>>>> advice then so bee it. I won't perform. I like my sound perfect and
>>>>>> perfect is the way I will have it.
>>>>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to
>>>>>> http://music.marrie.org/master.html for more info. If you need to
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> me my info is below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSN and AIM: marrie12 at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>>>>>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>>>>>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Dennis HR Sumlin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sound quality was not that bad at all last year, and the sound
>>>>>>> workers were there to make sure that the sound for the stage was on
>>>>>>> point. The quality was just fine. Of corce, there can always be
>>>>>>> improvement, however, that may cost more money. If we were to get
>>>>>>> donations for that purpose, then we could make that happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Peter Donahue
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:48 AM
>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's hoping the audio quality of any broadcast of the 2011 talent
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> will be much better than it was last year. We were told that sound
>>>>>>> tech
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> coming in to handle the broadcast and expected quality similar to
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the national and several state convention streams broadcast during
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>> year. Pleas do your best to insure that this happens this year.
>>>>>>> Addressing
>>>>>>> this issue will do wonders to insure that concerns of this kind 
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>> here in the future. All the best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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