[Perform-talk] Talent Show?

Lisa Ostrow ostrow5 at comcast.net
Fri Apr 29 11:19:01 UTC 2011


I've been following this discussion with great care, and agree with Kevin 
that apples and oranges are being compared here with regard to recorded 
sound vs. live sound.  Patrick and I were, and are, not responsible for the 
recorded sound per the division's resources, so I will leave that out of the 
discussion here.

As for the live sound, it has been the practice of the Division to utilize 
the resources of the hotel, based upon their willingness to allow us to use 
their equipment.  Money has always been a stumbling block for the Division, 
so for two of the past talent shows, Patrick and I have laid out our own 
money in order to upgrade the equipment the hotel was willing to supply. 
Typically, they offer us only two mics and the means to hook into the 
hotel's basic speaker system.  Last year, we upgraded via our own personal 
funding to include a mboom mic for the piano, additional mic for the stage 
to mic guitars, stage monitors (not the highest quality, but all they had), 
and speakers other than the hotel's insufficient sstandard system.  We did 
the very best we could, given our resources.

We would be happy to upgrade the equipment even further but do not have the 
means with which to do so.  What we really need is monetary support; 
managing the sound is under control and can only be as good as the equipment 
with which we have to work.

David, Patrick and I are handling the A/V contact and set-up at the hotel, 
per the board's decision last meeting.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Dunphy" <djdrocks4ever at gmail.com>
To: "Performing Arts Division list" <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?

> Hey Kevin!
> I was telling Lisa Ostrow and Patrick, who ran sound last year, that I 
> wanted to hook my laptop in to the system to help record it, as I'm the 
> one who has been broadcasting the event on online radio afterwards. Hell, 
> if it could be done, I'd love to stream it live this year, but if not, at 
> least get my computer in there. If you think this could be done, email me 
> off list so maybe if you get something going, we could coordinate. Email 
> is
> djdrocks4ever at gmail.com
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kevin Reeves
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:31 AM
> To: Performing Arts Division list
> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Talent Show?
> Hey everyone. I think what has happened here in this discussion is the 
> comparison of apples and oranges. Complaints have arisen about the 
> recording quality of the show. Dennis strictly stated several times that 
> the division is not responsible for the recordings, therefore do not 
> endorse their quality. So with that said, that side of the discussion 
> should be put to bed. Next year, let's work towards getting a better 
> recording. Folks have stud up and offered their resources in this regard. 
> Done, and done. But the other side of this discussion is the on stage 
> sound. That is the responsibility of the division. They sponsor the event, 
> they choose sound engineers, who intern choose the equipment used. The 
> goal is to raise money for the division. If we're gonna do that, it's got 
> to be good. I suggested earlier this week that we should look in the 
> orlando area for folks willing to donate time or equipment for a non 
> profit fund raiser, or try to get underwriters to rent equipment. If we 
> were any other division, such as the napub folks or the national 
> association of blind basket weavers who wanted to put on a fun talent 
> show, then who cares about the sound. Let's just have fun. But, we just so 
> happen to be the performing arts division: the very organization expected 
> to have it's ducks in a row when it comes to staging, sound, and even, 
> wait for it, gulp, lighting. So now, fortunately or unfortunately, however 
> you chose to look at it, the task falls squarely in our lap to put on a 
> show that really looks and sounds great. Why? Because this is the world in 
> which we live. Let me be very plain that I am not, nor have I from the 
> beginning, been complaining about the state of things when it came to last 
> year. I told you exactly what I thought from a professional perspective. 
> So, in short, I propose the following. Might we form a committee of folks 
> interested in helping procure sound for the talent show. If we start now, 
> we might be able to find something worthwhile. If we are able to find a 
> reasonable price for rental, then maybe we can present it to National. We 
> don't have to go all out this year. It needs to build. But I do know that 
> we definitely need a 12 to 16 channel board, 2 stage monitors, at least 3 
> mics, 1 on boom for piano or keyboard, 2 speaker clusters, 1 for each side 
> of the stage, at least 1 sub, and enough wattage to fill the room. Once we 
> know exactly what room the event will be in, I'll call the hotel, talk to 
> their AV guy, find out what kinds of systems they've seen in there, and 
> start gettin bids. If a store or company were to donate time for the 
> event, they can receive a tax writeoff for it. It's great incentive. 
> However, if we can get someone, or a group of someones to underwrite the 
> rental, let's do it. I'll bring in an 8 channel interface, a mac, and Pro 
> Tools and capture the whole thing as multitrack. I'll mix it, and upload 
> it to the site. Then, the whole thing will be done in house, direct from 
> the board, all separate tracks. That is as clear cut as I can make it. Is 
> this something that the division is interested in putting together? 
> Instead of bemoaning this, let's start owning this. We've got time. You're 
> thoughts?
> Kevin
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