[Perform-talk] Audio description

Mon Jun 8 04:11:57 UTC 2015

If it's called Theater by the Blind, then it's really sad that it's 
being run by a sighted person whose attitudes are so regressive.

What kinds of plays did you perform? What were your favorite roles?

I love Santa Monica -- I used to live there. What I really enjoyed was 
that you could walk all around the whole town easily, and the bus system 
was very good. And all the shops and outdoor cafes -- not to mention the 
weather!

On 6/7/2015 9:55 PM, Maria via Perform-talk wrote:
> Hi Masha,
>
> The company is called Theater By the Blind: TBTB.  It's through CRE Outreach
> and they are based in Santa Monica, California.
>
> Maria
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Masha Sten-Clanton via Perform-talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 4:28 PM
> To: Performing Arts Division list
> Cc: Masha Sten-Clanton
> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>
> Where was this company, Maria? It doesn't sound like Theater by the Blind in
> New York (Now Theater Breaking Through Barriers, as I think they've branched
> out to other disabilities.)
>
> Julie, I love your idea -- though I suppose we'd also need a sighted
> choreographer -- or maybe not, now that I think of it?
>
> Masha
>
>
> On 6/7/2015 4:38 PM, Julie McGinnity via Perform-talk wrote:
>> This is very interesting.
>>
>> What we need to do is put on a production with all blind...  Blind
>> directors, actors, musicians if we choose to do a musical that is.  Of
>> course, employing sighted people to assess stage lighting and the look
>> of the costumes would be fine, but all decisions would be made by the
>> blind.  I have heard of this company and find it interesting that
>> theater "by the blind" doesn't have blind directors.
>>
>>
>> I'm so glad we have actors on this list!  I think how the blind are
>> treated as actors is a very important topic and one the division
>> should discuss.
>>
>> On 6/7/15, Maria  via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Masha,
>>>
>>> Very well said.  It did ruin the experience for me.
>>>
>>> Still, I love acting and I'm hoping to someday find a way to get
>>> involved in the industry again.
>>>
>>> Maria
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Masha Sten-Clanton via Perform-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 6:04 AM
>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>> Cc: Masha Sten-Clanton
>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>
>>> Hi Maria:
>>>
>>> I think my reactions to that sort of thing would be very similar to
> yours.
>>> I
>>> wouldn't mind telling (very true) stories about how I couldn't
>>> participate in musicals in high school because they just assumed I
>>> couldn't dance (and didn't try to teach me). Or how difficult it is
>>> to get parts when directors are looking for chemistry during an
>>> audition, and what they mean by chemistry is often the ability for
>>> actors to give each other signals by looking at each other. But I
>>> would want to tell these stories in an effort to help people think
>>> about expanding our opportunities, not in order for some guy to set
>>> himself up as my savior and collect money for same. That sounds intensely
> humiliating, and almost enough to ruin the experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2015 10:52 PM, Maria via Perform-talk wrote:
>>>> Hi Masha,
>>>>
>>>> For about 4 years I was part of an all blind theater company.
>>>> Perhaps you have heard of it.  Anyway, At first it was wonderful and
>>>> I learned so much and I feel that I grew so much as an actress.
>>>> However, as time went on I began to realize that something was not
>>>> right about this
>>> theater company.
>>>> It is a nonprofit so of course there was a lot of fund raising and
>>>> kick starters, however, to me it just seemed a bit excessive.  In
>>>> addition, the director, which is sighted,  would make all the
>>>> members tell there saddest most pathetic stories after the plays in
>>>> order to gain the audiences sympathy and in so doing getting them to
>>>> donate even more.  I loved doing the plays but I just hated that
>>>> afgter the play he made us stand stage center and tell these tear
>>>> jerking and totally depressing stories.  He would then emphasize how
>>>> he was making such a positive difference on all our lives.  Long
>>>> story short, according to him, he was the reason we had finally
>>>> found a little joy in
>>> our dark and lonely lives.
>>>>
>>>> I finally got sick of it and brought up all of my concerns.
>>>> Needless to say that this did not go well.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it's been over a year since I left CRE Outreach, and even
>>>> though I do miss performing, I don't miss the manipulation and
>>>> begging for
>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm looking for new ways to get involved once again in the
>>>> beautiful art of acting.
>>>>
>>>> Maria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Masha Sten-Clanton via Perform-talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 4:47 PM
>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>> Cc: Masha Sten-Clanton
>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maria:
>>>>
>>>> I do community theater, so not many roles call for blind or visually
>>>> impaired characters. I find out about the theaters and sign up for
>>>> their mailing lists, and thus get notices about auditions.
>>>>
>>>> What about you?
>>>>
>>>> Masha
>>>>
>>>> On 6/6/2015 3:33 PM, Maria via Perform-talk wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mosha,
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you hear about auditions?  And, do you only audition to
>>>>> roles that call for blind or visually impaired characters?  Just
> wondering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Maria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Masha Sten-Clanton via Perform-talk
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 10:28 AM
>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>> Cc: Masha Sten-Clanton
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll contact you, Sandra! Yes, I find that even going to auditions
>>>>> is helpful, even when I don't get cast, because it's an opportunity
>>>>> to work on something and to experience how different people might
>>>>> interpret the same material.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/6/2015 1:17 PM, Sandra Gayer via Perform-talk wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> Sorry I'm late to this thread. I'm a Soprano Singer and Radio
>>>>>> Presenter. I'm a soloist in an opera at the moment which
>>>>>> celebrates the 800th anniversary of the signing of The Magna Carta.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How difficult the work is to find, very much depends on where you
>>>>>> look, how you sell yourself and, last but by no means least, how
>>>>>> good you are at your craft!  Acting is no different. If you want
>>>>>> work in these fields, you need experience. You can't get
>>>>>> experience unless you are experienced. However, you can get
>>>>>> experience volunteering in local groups. There is also experience
>>>>>> to be gained on acting courses/vocal studies courses, auditions
>>>>>> for jobs etc. Go to plays, concerts, musicals or another
>>>>>> performances you feel relevant to see and hear how the
>>>>>> professionals do things. Learn all you can. Every situation is an
>>>>>> opportunity to learn something. Even auditions, (whether you get
>>>>>> the part or not), is an opportunity to get something positive;
>>>>>> hear a piece of music which suits your voice which you have never
> heard, make a contact...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone wants further help on getting work in the arts, contact
>>>>>> me off list at sandragayer7 at gmail.com Very best wishes, Sandra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/31/15, Rob Kaiser via Perform-talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>> It is just as hard to find singing jobs as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob Kaiser
>>>>>>> email;
>>>>>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Maria via Perform-talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:52 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Performing Arts Division list'
>>>>>>> Cc: Maria
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Masha,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love your name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please feel free to write to me off list.  I'd love to talk to
>>>>>>> you about my acting experience.  It has been very difficult to
>>>>>>> find acting jobs, but when I do find them they are awesome.
>>>>>>> There is nothing I enjoy more than acting.
>>>>>>> Sadly, it is so very difficult to find work in this industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Masha Sten-Clanton via Perform-talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 4:40 PM
>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>> Cc: Masha Sten-Clanton
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi mMaria:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About three years ago, the NFB did a training for blind people
>>>>>>> wishing to enter that field. I think the idea was that a sighted
>>>>>>> person would write the descriptions and the blind person could
>>>>>>> check them for things like conciseness, non-condescension, and
>>>>>>> whether they contained not enough or too much information. I
>>>>>>> applied for the training but didn't get in -- it was highly
>>>>>>> competitive. I have no idea how it went or how successful the
>>>>>>> trainees were at securing jobs in the field. You might want to
>>>>>>> call the National Center and ask for Natalie Shaheen -- I think
>>>>>>> she was in charge of organizing the program, and she might have
>>>>>>> some
>>> information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Masha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2015 6:49 PM, Maria via Perform-talk wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Rob, it is much appreciated.  I also love acting but it's
>>>>>>>> so very hard to get into that industry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with everything you do!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Rob Kaiser via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 3:09 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>> Cc: Rob Kaiser
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay. Good luck on that. I am a singer myself and am still
>>>>>>>> trying to see what I can do to get into the music business even
>>>>>>>> at the young age of
>>>>>>> 55.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again, good luck on your endever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rob Kaiser
>>>>>>>> email;
>>>>>>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Maria via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 3:06 PM
>>>>>>>> To: 'Performing Arts Division list'
>>>>>>>> Cc: Maria
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doing audio description.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Perform-talk [mailto:perform-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Rob Kaiser via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:52 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>> Cc: Rob Kaiser
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you be more spesific as to what you are trying to do? Are
>>>>>>>> you trying to get acting jobs, or are you trying to do somehing
>>>>>>>> rerding audio description?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rob Kaiser
>>>>>>>> email;
>>>>>>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Maria via Perform-talk
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:36 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Performing Arts Division list
>>>>>>>> Cc: Maria
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Perform-talk] Audio description
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, my name is Maria and I am a totally blind woman living in
>>>>>>>> the Los Angeles County.  I came across an email regarding the
>>>>>>>> audio description awards and I wanted to express just how
>>>>>>>> wonderful I think the audio description field is.  It truly does
>>>>>>>> enrich the watching experience for many blind and visually impaired
> people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having said that, there is nothing I would like more than to
>>>>>>>> know how I could become part of this field.  I am an avid
>>>>>>>> Braille reader and I have also done some acting.  I think this
>>>>>>>> career would be absolutely perfect for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would anyone on this list be able to point me in the right
>>>>>>>> direction so that I can pursue this type of employment?  For
>>>>>>>> example, where could I get training in this field?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I Thank you in advance for your time and assistance with this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The greatness comes not when things are always going well for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the greatness comes when you're really tested,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when you take some knocks, some disappointments, when sadness
>>>>>>>> comes...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because only if you've been in the deepest valley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can you ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest
>>>>>>>> mountain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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