[Perform-Talk] JAWS not Showing Capital Letter Indicator When Rendering German Braille

Mon Sep 4 20:32:14 UTC 2023

I took German back in the day, and I remember dealing with this
problem. This was some 12 years ago or so, so I'll try to tell you as
much as I can.

Have you tried setting your default to uncontracted Braille? I also
wonder if something is going wrong with your computer Braille
settings. Dealing with computer Braille and foreign languages was
always a headache for me when I was taking German.

Are you using Word documents that you are trying to read? Sometimes it
helps to set Word to recognize a document as German as well, so maybe
this will help you.

I'll try to remember what else I did to render German Braille
properly. My first choice for reading German was always to transfer it
from my computer directly to a Braille Note. But I know that may not
be an option.

Julie

On 9/4/23, Noah Carver via Perform-Talk <perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Shelley,
>
> Have you tried looking through BARD's Braille section? They might have
> something. Beyond that, I don't have any suggestions as I'm just starting
> to learn German and German Braille myself. The bulk of my exposure to
> German Braille has come from pieces with German lyrics transcribed into
> Music Braille for my use here at Eastman. If you find anything, I'd love to
> know what you've found and where you've found it. Best of luck.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Noah
> --
> Noah Carver
> Candidate, B.M. '26
> Applied Music (Performance) -- Voice
> Eastman School of Music
> University of Rochester
> [image: JAWS Certified, 2023]
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> noahcarver494 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 2:14 PM Shelley Alongi via Perform-Talk <
> perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I can’t answer your question directly but in return, I do have a question.
>> I assume you’re using a braille display. But my question concerns where to
>> find German Braille in general. I was a music major before the braille
>> display was conceived at least in this country. I bet that makes it
>> easier.
>> If you have any ideas where to find German braille for reading , I would
>> appreciate your insight. I found Braille German in Germany but I don’t
>> think they’ll ship it to me. :-) I am not able to answer your question,
>> but
>> I would like to pose a question where do you get German braille? I’ve been
>> looking and looking and I can’t find anything that’s in the US and anyone
>> that says it doesn’t have it. I am aware you’re probably using a braille
>> display. I’m looking for it just to read. Do you have any ideas about
>> that?
>> I bet you do. :-) I was a music major in the days before the braille
>> display. But I bet that makes it a lot easier. :-)
>>
>> Shelley, Queen of Bells Out!
>> President, NFB Writers’ Division
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>>
>>
>> > On Sep 4, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Noah Carver via Perform-Talk <
>> perform-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Clarification: I've been told the capital letter indicator is dots 4-6.
>> > With that being said, it still doesn't render.
>> > --
>> > Noah Carver
>> > Candidate, B.M. '26
>> > Applied Music (Performance) -- Voice
>> > Eastman School of Music
>> > University of Rochester
>> > [image: JAWS Certified, 2023]
>> > <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification/>
>> > +1 (207) 557-9143 <+12075579143>
>> > noahcarver494 at gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 11:30 AM Noah Carver <noahcarver494 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To Whom it May Concern,
>> >>
>> >> I need to read German Braille for Elementary German, a course that I am
>> >> taking as part of my required classes. As such, I have configured JAWS
>> with
>> >> two braille profiles: English and German. However, JAWS does not render
>> the
>> >> capital letter indicator (dot 6) when rendering Braille via the German
>> >> profile even though the “Suppress Capital Signs” checkbox within the
>> >> “Profile details” dialog for the German profile is not checked. I am
>> >> running JAWS version 2023.2307.37.
>> >>
>> >> I have configured the German profile as follows:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   For Contracted Braille, Use: German Grade 0
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   When using Computer Braille For Output, Use: European Unicode
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   When using Computer BrailleFor Input, Use: European Unicode
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   By Default, Use: Contracted Braille
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   Use Liblouis for Computer Braille: Not checked
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   Suppress Capital Signs: Not checked
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Additionally, I have configured the checkboxes within the “Language
>> >> Profiles” dialog as follows:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   Link Braille Input Language To Keyboard Language: Checked
>> >>   -
>> >>
>> >>   Automatic Language Detection: Checked
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From my understanding of JAWS, the above configuration should allow
>> >> display of uncontracted German but with capital letters indicated.
>> However,
>> >> this is not happening. Any input as to why this is not occurring is
>> greatly
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Noah
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Noah Carver
>> >> Candidate, B.M. '26
>> >> Applied Music (Performance) -- Voice
>> >> Eastman School of Music
>> >> University of Rochester
>> >> [image: JAWS Certified, 2023]
>> >> <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification/>
>> >> +1 (207) 557-9143 <+12075579143>
>> >> noahcarver494 at gmail.com
>> >>
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-- 
Julie A. Orozco
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; American University Washington College of
Law, JD Candidate 2023