[Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Tue Sep 13 18:38:45 UTC 2011


Me too. I'm using my iPhone with the touch-screen. I also use it with my BrailleSense Plus and with a Bluetooth keyboard. I still maintain that good note-taking apps aren't quite there yet although there are great scientific and financial calculators available.

Mike Freeman
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On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:18, "Brandy W" <branlw at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I also do the same thing. Someone else said you needed to connect the phone to Itunes to  be able to use the toggle feature, but you can actually turn it on in the menus. I also connect my Iphone to my Braille not, and am thinking about a bluetooth keyboard. However I have been able to completely use my phone when my computer has been out of order.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Denning" <MDenning at finneytown.org>
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>> I use the iPhone and I can turn Voice Over on and off by tapping the "home" button 3 times.  In a pinch I can use anyone's iPhone.  I don't use a iPod or iPad.  I only have the current version on my phone.
>> Marianne Denning
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>> Finneytown Secondary Campus
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>> From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org [pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M. Robinson [dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:54 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool
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>> Sally,
>> That is fantastic news about the ios5--can't wait to try it out
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>>      Denise
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>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
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>> From: Sally Thomas <seacknit at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool
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>> My son uses his Apex with his iPhone but he is pretty adept at the touch features too. It just takes practice.  He says that the iPad has an advantage for some games and some mapping stuff because there is more room to move your finger around.  For most work, the Touch or iPhone work just fine. David says that since the OS for the iPhone, iPod Touch and the iPad are the same, the functionality of the BrailleNote with the iProducts are all the same. The mPower has some issues with the bluetooth connectivity, The signal can be spotty.  This problem has been fixed with the Apex.
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>> Once it is set up (through iTunes), if you triple tap the button at the bottom of the iPod Touch you will turn on VoiceOver (ask me how I know :)). David is beta testing iOS 5 right now and he says that they have made it so that a blind person can start VoiceOver independently.  iOS 5 will be coming out soon.
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>> David is a real Apple fan boy.  He really loves his iPhone and Mac.
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>> Sally Thomas
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson<mailto:dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com>
>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool
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>> Eric
>> I have noticed equality with the IPOD (the more advanced one=newer) and IPAD with braille display for blind. At first, it does take a sighted person to get the voice over on, bluetooth and pairing of the braille display--then practice. Yes, blind kids can get the scrolling with their fingers on the screen too, but with a braille display you can move pretty quickly without all the hiccups of trying to use your fingers on the screen. Hiccups like going somewhere you did not want to go, then trying to get back.
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>> IPAD will bring in more visual function so if low vision, and you can find an accessible site, visually pleasing to low vision kids, but does not add much for a totally blind child. Once again...accessible sites are the key as without accessibility the braille display won't work either. But that is true for a computer and talking software. Same problems
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>> I have only used the refreshabraille with them, which works great, but I have to believe the braille note would go with them. I know the focus braille display does.
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>>      Denise
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>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>> TechVision-Independent Contractor
>> Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
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>> http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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>> From: DrV <pumpkinracer at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:58 AM
>> Subject: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool
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>> Hi everyone,
>> For a blind student, what are the functional differences between the iPad & iPod in terms of utility & access? (An iPod would seem to be preferable from a size standpoint, but it is equal to the iPad experience of a student's classmates?)
>> Are both equally accessible from a functional standpoint with respect to BrailleNote pairing? How well does BrailleNote pairing work? What are the quirks/limitations?
>> If someone could share there experience with the iPad/iPod for blind students in the classroom setting, I am sure the perspective & experience would be of interest to many on this listserv.
>> Respectfully,
>> Eric
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