[Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
David Andrews
dandrews at visi.com
Sat Sep 24 23:51:58 UTC 2011
I read that part of the reason that these kinds of devices work, and
can do OCR on hand-writing is that they also track, and know in what
order you do the strokes of writing. This helps them decide what
letters you are drawing. With a system that only has an image of
writing, it is apparently much more difficult to figure out, hence no
one does it yet.
Dave
\At 08:37 AM 9/23/2011, you wrote:
>Ok Albert
>I had to go to my blog to get it...if you ever need anything
>repeated I have set up links to all the major products I talk about
>within the page on the blog
>but I will save you time--here is the link on amazon
>http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3
>..remember, you MUST get the handwriting software that goes with
>it--another 45 bucks...here is another issue...it does take sighted
>help to select the image and translate it, unless you have practiced
>your mouse skills then you may be able to do it yourself--
>I really believe a blind company needs to get a hold of this so they
>can put it in camera size AND improve some of the inaccessible parts
>like the selecting of the image
>
> Denise
>
>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>TechVision-Independent Contractor
>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
>509-674-1853 <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com> deniserob at gmail.com
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
>To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
><pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>Ok. what is the name of that software?
>
>Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>Founder
>My Blind Spot, Inc.
>90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>New York, New York 10004
>www.myblindspot.org
>PH: 917-553-0347
>Fax: 212-858-5759
>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
>doing it."
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:
><mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org>pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M.
>Robinson
>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:45 AM
>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>Albert..to add to the story. When I first got the digimemo and tried it out,
>then translated it and only got an inaccessible PDF image I was pretty
>disgusted, and that is putting it mildly....more research into this and I
>found the handwriting translation software. I installed it and when I copied
>that image and it made text and jaws talked it...I thought I had gone to
>heaven....it was and is that incredible. So the moral here is....make sure
>you get both--the tool AND the extra software--smile
>
>
> Denise
>
>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>TechVision-Independent Contractor
>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
>509-674-1853 <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>deniserob at gmail.com
><mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
> From: Albert J Rizzi
> <<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
><<mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Yes. print is print and cursive is cursive. So I am fascinated to
>learn that
> this tool can interpret hand printed writing. Wow.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
>who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> <mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org>pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise M.
> Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Albert
> I need to be careful here, yes, hand written notes as in printed
>text. I did
> try cursive, but it misses too many of the characters and does not
>translate
> well...printing letters as in from the hand....did I do a better job
>of
> explaining?--smile
>
> Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
> TechVision-Independent Contractor
> Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
> 509-674-1853 <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>deniserob at gmail.com
> <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Albert J Rizzi
> <<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
> <<mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Denise,
>
> Not sure I am understanding you. when I saw it demonstrated it
>was
> doing so
> with printed text. are you saying it can also do the same thing
>with
> hand
> written documents?
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
>one
> who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> <mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org>pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
>Denise M.
> Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:16 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Albert
> Yes, I am so amazed at the accuracy too. I tried drawing pies
>and
> other
> graphs and though when you translate the handwriting into text
>it
> will take
> out the pictures, but the words are still there. If low vision,
>you
> can get
> a PDF image of it and enlarge for the low vision student, or
>just
> keep it on
> the computer and they can enlarge it themselves...technology is
> really a wow
> thing
>
> Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
> TechVision-Independent Contractor
> Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
> 509-674-1853
> <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>deniserob at gmail.com <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>
>
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> From: Albert J Rizzi
> <<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
> <<mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Denise and all,
>
> I actually had a friend who uses this tool demonstrate the
>same
> in
> my
> presence. It is fantastic and very very precise. It is more
> precise
> then my
> kursweil scanner.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York 10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt
>the
> one
> who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> <mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org>pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
> Denise M.
> Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:32 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
> Ok Lori--there is
> The NFB-Kurzweil reader is the size of a phone because it is
>a
> phone
> but
> also has a camera attached. You hold it over anything in
>print
> about
> your
> elbow to arm length, take a picture and it will read the
>text to
> you. I will
> do a longer blog on this to more fully explain its
>capabilites
>
> Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
> TechVision-Independent Contractor
> Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
> 509-674-1853 <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>deniserob at gmail.com
><mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>
>
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> From: Zephyr
> <<mailto:twilight2 at kconline.com>twilight2 at kconline.com>
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> <<mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>
> Wow! It's not Sci-fi any more?
>
> Now, I want an ap that can scan and read hand-writing. I
>can
> always
> hope there already something in existence that I am just in
>the
> dark
> about.
>
> Thanks for sharing the topics which should be brought to
>the
> attention of all blind students, families, and teachers and
> administrators.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson
> <mailto:dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com>
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division
>List
> <mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:44 PM
> Subject: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>
>
> Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>
>
><<http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html
> >
>
> Digital Handwritten Notes. it sounds like an
> oxymoron...kind
> of like a hairy bald guy, but it is here.
>
> The writing surface is about the size of a small
>piece
> of
> paper. The whole board is light and easy to carry and about
>the
> size
> of an
> 8x11 piece of paper. It is a tiny computer and you can add
>more
> RAM-
> with a
> memory card.
>
> The blind student can take the digital note-taking
> device to
> a class where the teacher is very driven by writing on the
> board.
> The blind
> student hands it to a sighted student and she takes notes on
>it.
> At
> the end
> of class, the sighted student rips off the pages for
>themself
> and
> hands the
> board back to the blind student. The blind student can then
> download
> all the
> notes onto the computer. In tangent with this is a
>handwriting
> recognition
> tool, which translates the handwriting into digital text
>that
> talking
> software can read. Note taking made easy.
>
> This is the one I have been using and as long as the
> handwritten notes are legible, the pad can read it to the
> computer.
> SolidTek
> DigiMemo 692 Digital Notepad with Memory by SolidTek
>
>
>
><<http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r>http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r
> ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3>
>
> If you read this information in my blog,
>
><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>you can just click on
>the
> links and it
> will take you directly to the product, or if you are using
> talking
> software,
> just bring up your links and you can go to the product. This
>is
> true
> for all
> the information in the blog.
>
>
> Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
> TechVision-Independent Contractor
> Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
> 509-674-1853
> <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>deniserob at gmail.com
> <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
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