[Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes

Dr. Denise M. Robinson dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 25 11:14:55 UTC 2011


Lori
I tried using many different types of printing. As long as it was printing...it got it. Cursive..not so much

 
       Denise 
 
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
TechVision-Independent Contractor
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
509-674-1853     deniserob at gmail.com
 
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
 



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>From: Zephyr <twilight2 at kconline.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>
>
> 
>Interesting. I wonder how accurate it would be if 
you do not use the traditional hand writing techniques. There is a lot more than 
just the shape of the letter.
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: David Andrews 
>>To: Professionals in Blindness Education  Division List 
>>Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:51  PM
>>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital  Handwritten Notes
>>
>>I read that part of the reason that these kinds of devices  work, and can do OCR on hand-writing is that  they also track, and know  in what order you do the strokes of writing.  This helps them decide what  letters you are drawing.  With a system that only has an image of  writing, it is apparently much more difficult to figure out, hence no one does  it yet.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>\At 08:37 AM 9/23/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>Ok Albert
>>>I had to go to my 
    blog to get it...if you ever need anything repeated I have set up links to 
    all the major products I talk about within the page on the blog
>>>but I 
    will save you time--here is the link on amazon
>>>http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3 
>>>..remember, you MUST get the handwriting software that goes with 
    it--another 45 bucks...here is another issue...it does take sighted help to 
    select the image and translate it, unless you have practiced your mouse 
    skills then you may be able to do it yourself--
>>>I really believe a blind 
    company needs to get a hold of this so they can put it in camera size AND 
    improve some of the inaccessible parts like the selecting of the 
    image
>>> 
>>>        Denise 
>>> 
>>>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
>>>Teacher of 
    the Blind & Visually Impaired
>>>TechVision-Independent 
    Contractor
>>>Specialist in blind 
    programming/teaching/training
>>>509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com
>>> 
>>>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Albert J Rizzi  <albert at myblindspot.org>
>>>
>>>To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'  <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:59 AM
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten  Notes
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok. what is the name of that software?
>>>
>>>
>>>Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>
>>>Founder
>>>
>>>My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>
>>>90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>
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>>>PH: 917-553-0347
>>>
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>>>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one  who is
>>>
>>>doing it."
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>>[mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise 
M.
>>>
>>>Robinson
>>>
>>>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:45 AM
>>>
>>>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>
>>>Albert..to add to the story. When I first got the digimemo and tried  it out,
>>>
>>>then translated it and only got an inaccessible PDF image I was  pretty
>>>
>>>disgusted, and that is putting it mildly....more research into this  and I
>>>
>>>found the handwriting translation software. I installed it and when I  copied
>>>
>>>that image and it made text and jaws talked it...I thought I had gone  to
>>>
>>>heaven....it was and is that incredible. So the moral here is....make  sure
>>>
>>>you get both--the tool AND the extra software--smile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Denise 
>>>
>>>
>>>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
>>>
>>>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>>>
>>>TechVision-Independent Contractor
>>>
>>>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
>>>
>>>509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com> 
>>>
>>>
>>>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>    From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
>>>
>>>    To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division  List'
>>>
>>><pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>>    Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:15 AM
>>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten  Notes
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    Yes. print is print and cursive is cursive. So I am  fascinated to
>>>
>>>learn that
>>>
>>>    this tool can interpret hand printed writing. Wow. 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>
>>>    Founder
>>>
>>>    My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>
>>>    90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>
>>>    New York, New York  10004
>>>
>>>    www.myblindspot.org
>>>
>>>    PH: 917-553-0347
>>>
>>>    Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>
>>>    "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't  interrupt the one
>>>
>>>who is
>>>
>>>    doing it."
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    
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>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>    From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>>    [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of Dr. Denise M.
>>>
>>>    Robinson
>>>
>>>    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20 PM
>>>
>>>    To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division  List
>>>
>>>    Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten  Notes
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    Albert
>>>
>>>    I need to be careful here, yes, hand written notes  as in printed
>>>
>>>text. I did
>>>
>>>    try cursive, but it misses too many of the  characters and does not
>>>
>>>translate
>>>
>>>    well...printing letters as in from the hand....did  I do a better job
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>    explaining?--smile
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>          Denise 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
>>>
>>>    Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>>>
>>>    TechVision-Independent Contractor
>>>
>>>    Specialist in blind  programming/teaching/training
>>>
>>>    509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com> 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
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>>>    
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>    ________________________________
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>        From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
>>>
>>>        To: 'Professionals in  Blindness Education Division List'
>>>
>>>    <pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
>>>
>>>        Sent: Thursday, September  22, 2011 2:25 PM
>>>
>>>        Subject: Re:  [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        Denise,
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        Not sure I am understanding  you. when I saw it demonstrated it
>>>
>>>was
>>>
>>>    doing so
>>>
>>>        with printed text. are you  saying it can also do the same thing
>>>
>>>with
>>>
>>>    hand
>>>
>>>        written documents?
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>
>>>        Founder
>>>
>>>        My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>
>>>        90 Broad Street - 18th  Fl.
>>>
>>>        New York, New York   10004
>>>
>>>        www.myblindspot.org
>>>
>>>        PH: 917-553-0347
>>>
>>>        Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>
>>>        "The person who says it  cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
>>>
>>>one
>>>
>>>    who is
>>>
>>>        doing it."
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        
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>>>        -----Original  Message-----
>>>
>>>        From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>>        [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
>>>
>>>Denise M.
>>>
>>>        Robinson
>>>
>>>        Sent: Thursday, September  22, 2011 5:16 PM
>>>
>>>        To: Professionals in  Blindness Education Division List
>>>
>>>        Subject: Re:  [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        Albert
>>>
>>>        Yes, I am so amazed at the  accuracy too. I tried drawing pies
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>    other
>>>
>>>        graphs and though when you  translate the handwriting into text
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>    will take
>>>
>>>        out the pictures, but the  words are still there. If low vision,
>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>    can get
>>>
>>>        a PDF image of it and  enlarge for the low vision student, or
>>>
>>>just
>>>
>>>    keep it on
>>>
>>>        the computer and they can  enlarge it themselves...technology is
>>>
>>>    really a wow
>>>
>>>        thing
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>               Denise 
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        Denise M. Robinson, TVI,  Ph.D. 
>>>
>>>        Teacher of the Blind &  Visually Impaired
>>>
>>>        TechVision-Independent  Contractor
>>>
>>>        Specialist in blind  programming/teaching/training
>>>
>>>         509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>             From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org >
>>>
>>>            To:  'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
>>>
>>>        <pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
>>>
>>>             Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:51 PM
>>>
>>>             Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>             Denise and all,
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            I  actually had a friend  who uses this tool demonstrate the
>>>
>>>same
>>>
>>>    in
>>>
>>>        my
>>>
>>>             presence. It is fantastic  and very very precise. It is more
>>>
>>>    precise
>>>
>>>        then my
>>>
>>>             kursweil scanner. 
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>             Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>
>>>             Founder
>>>
>>>            My  Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>
>>>            90  Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>
>>>            New  York, New York  10004
>>>
>>>            www.myblindspot.org
>>>
>>>            PH:  917-553-0347
>>>
>>>             Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>
>>>             "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>    one
>>>
>>>        who is
>>>
>>>             doing it."
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>             Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
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>>>            
>>>
>>>             -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>             From: pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>
>>>            [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
>>>
>>>    Denise M.
>>>
>>>             Robinson
>>>
>>>             Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:32 PM
>>>
>>>            To:  Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>>>
>>>             Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            Ok  Lori--there is
>>>
>>>            The  NFB-Kurzweil reader is the size of a phone because it is
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>    phone
>>>
>>>        but
>>>
>>>             also has a camera attached. You hold it over anything in
>>>
>>>print
>>>
>>>    about
>>>
>>>        your
>>>
>>>             elbow to arm length, take a picture and it will read the
>>>
>>>text to
>>>
>>>        you. I will
>>>
>>>            do  a longer blog on this to more fully explain its
>>>
>>>capabilites 
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                   Denise 
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>             Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
>>>
>>>             Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>>>
>>>             TechVision-Independent Contractor
>>>
>>>             Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
>>>
>>>             509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com
>>>
>>><mailto:deniserob at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                 From: Zephyr <twilight2 at kconline.com >
>>>
>>>                 To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>>>
>>>             <pibe-division at nfbnet.org >
>>>
>>>                 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:04 PM
>>>
>>>                 Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                 Wow! It's not Sci-fi any more?
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                 Now, I want an ap that can scan and read hand-writing. I
>>>
>>>can
>>>
>>>        always
>>>
>>>             hope there already something in existence that I am just in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>    dark
>>>
>>>        about.
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                 Thanks for sharing the topics which should be brought to
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>             attention of all blind students, families, and teachers and
>>>
>>>        administrators.
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>                
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>>                     From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson
>>>
>>>             <mailto:dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com> 
>>>
>>>                     To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division
>>>
>>>List
>>>
>>>             <mailto:pibe-division at nfbnet.org>>>
>>>                     Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:44 PM
>>>
>>>                     Subject: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                     Digital Handwritten Notes
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>><http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html 
>>>
>>>             >  
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>                     Digital Handwritten Notes. it sounds like an
>>>
>>>    oxymoron...kind
>>>
>>>            of  like a hairy bald guy, but it is here.
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                     The writing surface is about the size of a small
>>>
>>>piece
>>>
>>>    of
>>>
>>>             paper. The whole board is light and easy to carry and about
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>    size
>>>
>>>        of an
>>>
>>>             8x11 piece of paper. It is a tiny computer and you can add
>>>
>>>more
>>>
>>>    RAM-
>>>
>>>        with a
>>>
>>>             memory card. 
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                     The blind student can take the digital note-taking
>>>
>>>    device to
>>>
>>>            a  class where the teacher is very driven by writing on the
>>>
>>>    board.
>>>
>>>        The blind
>>>
>>>             student hands it to a sighted student and she takes notes on
>>>
>>>it.
>>>
>>>    At
>>>
>>>        the end
>>>
>>>            of  class, the sighted student rips off the pages for
>>>
>>>themself
>>>
>>>    and
>>>
>>>        hands the
>>>
>>>             board back to the blind student. The blind student can then
>>>
>>>    download
>>>
>>>        all the
>>>
>>>             notes onto the computer. In tangent with this is a
>>>
>>>handwriting
>>>
>>>        recognition
>>>
>>>             tool, which translates the handwriting into digital text
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>        talking
>>>
>>>             software can read. Note taking made easy.
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                     This is the one I have been using and as long as the
>>>
>>>             handwritten notes are legible, the pad can read it to the
>>>
>>>    computer.
>>>
>>>        SolidTek
>>>
>>>             DigiMemo 692 Digital Notepad with Memory by SolidTek
>>>
>>>            
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>><http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r 
>>>
>>>             ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3> 
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                     If you read this information in my blog,
>>>
>>>            http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/ you can just click on
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>        links and it
>>>
>>>             will take you directly to the product, or if you are using
>>>
>>>    talking
>>>
>>>        software,
>>>
>>>             just bring up your links and you can go to the product. This
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>    true
>>>
>>>        for all
>>>
>>>            the  information in the blog.
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                           Denise 
>>>
>>>                    
>>>
>>>                     Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. 
>>>
>>>                     Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired
>>>
>>>                     TechVision-Independent Contractor
>>>
>>>                     Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training
>>>
>>>                     509-674-1853    deniserob at gmail.com
>>>
>>>             <mailto:deniserob at gmail.com> 
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