[Pibe-division] Nemeth and refreshible braille solutions

Fri May 10 13:36:04 UTC 2013

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> From: Sylvia Ekdahl <spedsyl at aol.com>
>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division at nfbnet.org> 
>Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 8:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Nemeth and refreshible braille solutions
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>This is not an electronic or hard copy solution, but in my braille student's math class I use the Math Window to demonstrate math concepts "on the fly." This is a handy portable low tech solution to keeping the student up with what is being presented in the class. After presenting the new concept or idea in Nemeth on the Math Window, then I can get the new material brailled or find its section in the already brailled math textbook.
>Here is the website for the Math Window:   www.mathwindow.com 
>Paula and Roger Wolf are really great people to work with.
>Hope this helps.
>Sylvia Ekdahl, M.Ed., CTVI
>Texas
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>On May 10, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your response Eric.  We definitely do try and provide as
>> much in hard copy braille as possible.  The switch to common core this
>> year has meant that our teachers are preparing lessons and materials
>> even later than usual because they are often working to master the
>> presentation of the new concepts themselves.
>> 
>> Could you describe what it might look like if the para were proficient
>> in 6 key entry?  The para is eager to learn and is not intimidated by
>> Nemeth.  She has only been with the VI program here for a little over
>> a year though and has not mastered the code quite 
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> On 5/10/13, Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com> wrote:
>>> I was glad to read that, whenever possible, you emboss hardcopies of
>>> requisite materials in math. That is so crucial, particularly in subject
>>> areas involving the Nemeth Code. It's too bad that the assistant is not
>>> proficient in six key entry, as that is the only way I can think of to make
>>> what you are hoping to accomplish possible. Any other thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 9, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello colleagues,
>>>> I am looking for ways to produce Nemeth braille on an electronic
>>>> display in real time.  The para I have working with an elementary
>>>> student to provide access to her math class pointed out how much more
>>>> effective it would be to be able to just put the braille under my
>>>> student's fingers than trying to sneak in descriptions of what the
>>>> teacher has written in between teacher explanations.  The student has
>>>> some trouble listening to the two voices at once and I want to make
>>>> sure she can listen to as much of her math teacher explaining as
>>>> possible.  When the teacher's provide materials ahead of time, we are
>>>> able to accomplish this by embossing them in hard copy braille.
>>>> However, most often examples are made up on the fly in response to
>>>> student questions or difficulties.
>>>> 
>>>> I thought this sounded like a wonderful idea and wanted to ask if
>>>> anyone else is doing something similar.  We were thinking of something
>>>> like pairing the student's braillenote to an ipad or laptop and having
>>>> the para type the math in as the teacher writes it on the board.  I'm
>>>> not sure what tool we would use to input the math symbols though.  As
>>>> far as I know, most math symbols would be automatically rendered into
>>>> computer braille instead of Nemeth.
>>>> 
>>>> I suppose that Duxbury might do this.  However the para is not yet
>>>> fluent enough in Nemeth to use 6 key entry on the fly.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of any tools that will accomplish what we are trying to
>>>> do?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
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