[Pibe-division] Nemeth and refreshible braille solutions

Fri May 10 16:14:46 UTC 2013

Thanks so much for these suggestions.  I had completely forgotten
about the math window.  I had access to one during student teaching
and it was a great tool.

The pen looks pretty cool.  Too bad it isn't already on the market.
Thanks for sharing Denise.
-Greg

On 5/10/13, Krystal Guillory <krystalguillory at aol.com> wrote:
> This pen looks very promising for fast 3D models. Thanks for sharing,
> Denise
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2013, at 8:36 AM, "Dr. Denise M. Robinson"
> <dmehlenbacher at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The math window is phenomenal and this 3D pen---a new product could add
>> just an incredible amount to the on the fly or not on the fly way to learn
>> for our blind kids.
>>
>> See more detail at:The World's First 3D Printing Pen-3Doodler---make math
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>>
>>        Dr Denise
>>
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>> From: Sylvia Ekdahl <spedsyl at aol.com>
>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
>> <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 8:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Nemeth and refreshible braille solutions
>>
>> This is not an electronic or hard copy solution, but in my braille
>> student's math class I use the Math Window to demonstrate math concepts
>> "on the fly." This is a handy portable low tech solution to keeping the
>> student up with what is being presented in the class. After presenting the
>> new concept or idea in Nemeth on the Math Window, then I can get the new
>> material brailled or find its section in the already brailled math
>> textbook.
>> Here is the website for the Math Window:  www.mathwindow.com
>> Paula and Roger Wolf are really great people to work with.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Sylvia Ekdahl, M.Ed., CTVI
>> Texas
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 10, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for your response Eric.  We definitely do try and provide as
>> > much in hard copy braille as possible.  The switch to common core this
>> > year has meant that our teachers are preparing lessons and materials
>> > even later than usual because they are often working to master the
>> > presentation of the new concepts themselves.
>> >
>> > Could you describe what it might look like if the para were proficient
>> > in 6 key entry?  The para is eager to learn and is not intimidated by
>> > Nemeth.  She has only been with the VI program here for a little over
>> > a year though and has not mastered the code quite
>> > Thanks for your thoughts.
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> > On 5/10/13, Eric Guillory <ericguillory at aol.com> wrote:
>> >> I was glad to read that, whenever possible, you emboss hardcopies of
>> >> requisite materials in math. That is so crucial, particularly in
>> >> subject
>> >> areas involving the Nemeth Code. It's too bad that the assistant is
>> >> not
>> >> proficient in six key entry, as that is the only way I can think of to
>> >> make
>> >> what you are hoping to accomplish possible. Any other thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On May 9, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello colleagues,
>> >>> I am looking for ways to produce Nemeth braille on an electronic
>> >>> display in real time.  The para I have working with an elementary
>> >>> student to provide access to her math class pointed out how much more
>> >>> effective it would be to be able to just put the braille under my
>> >>> student's fingers than trying to sneak in descriptions of what the
>> >>> teacher has written in between teacher explanations.  The student has
>> >>> some trouble listening to the two voices at once and I want to make
>> >>> sure she can listen to as much of her math teacher explaining as
>> >>> possible.  When the teacher's provide materials ahead of time, we are
>> >>> able to accomplish this by embossing them in hard copy braille.
>> >>> However, most often examples are made up on the fly in response to
>> >>> student questions or difficulties.
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought this sounded like a wonderful idea and wanted to ask if
>> >>> anyone else is doing something similar.  We were thinking of
>> >>> something
>> >>> like pairing the student's braillenote to an ipad or laptop and
>> >>> having
>> >>> the para type the math in as the teacher writes it on the board.  I'm
>> >>> not sure what tool we would use to input the math symbols though.  As
>> >>> far as I know, most math symbols would be automatically rendered into
>> >>> computer braille instead of Nemeth.
>> >>>
>> >>> I suppose that Duxbury might do this.  However the para is not yet
>> >>> fluent enough in Nemeth to use 6 key entry on the fly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know of any tools that will accomplish what we are trying
>> >>> to
>> >>> do?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Greg
>> >>>
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