[Pibe-division] TVI Training

Tue Feb 18 20:24:15 UTC 2014

I attended Kutztown University in Pa. but that was many years ago - I graduated in 1984! At that time it was a BS in Education Visually Impaired doubled with a degree in Elementary Education. I have no idea what the program is like now.
Gail Wagner

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From: Pibe-division [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of melissa R green
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] TVI Training

that is a good point.
If you want a BA or BS, there are universities that do both masters and bachelor's degrees.
I have heard a lot about kutstown university in pensylvania.
It may just have a bachelor's degree, but I am not sure.
Search the AER web site.
Their once was a list of programs and their degrees.
HTH

Best,
Melissa R Green
Hold fast to dreams,
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird,
That cannot fly.
Langston Hughes

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From: "Marianne Denning" <marianne at denningweb.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] TVI Training

Many of the programs being discussed here are Masters programs.  You
need to keep that in mind.  If you want your BS in education of the
visually impaired that may be different.

I agree that it is very hard to find drivers and convince school
districts or co-ops to hire drivers.  I worked in a district as a TVI
for 3 years and when my main student graduated they did not renew my
contract.  My solution to that problem was to become self-employed.
It, too, has challenges but I am enjoying it.  I never planned to have
my own business.  It was never my dream but, sometimes, life takes you
places you never planned to go.  I teach students near my home and
teach students around the country through virtual instruction.  Learn
how to solve problems and don't get discouraged.  I have had many jobs
and a few careers over the years and each one has challenges.  Become
a problem-solver and continue to reach out to other blind people.  I
have learned a lot through different groups I belong to on the
internet.  Don't ever give up your dream!

On 2/18/14, Smith, Pauline L <PSmith4 at dmc.org> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> Thanks, Melissa for reminding us of the obstacles that are still too
> numerous in getting blind teachers hired even in the TVI field.  One thing
> that was and continues to be pointed out to me is that school districts 
> are
> hesitant to hire someone that may need a driver that the district would
> possibly have to pay for.  The number of single school based programs
> continues to diminish nationwide.  That's the kind of job I prefer.  The
> stress of finding and keeping up with drivers was a discouraging factor in
> my pursuing itinerant jobs, particularly in areas outside my home base. 
> It
> can and is done by countless teachers.  However, I had the same experience
> Melissa had.  I had a hard time finding successful blind teachers to 
> network
> with.  The one person I did find didn't keep in touch on a regular basis 
> to
> be of much help.
>
> Good luck to all those pursuing this profession.  Good teachers are sorely
> needed everywhere.
>
> Pauline
>
> P.S., Those of you who have quotes at the end of your emails, how do you
> find them?  How do you incorporate them into your messages?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pibe-division [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> melissa R green
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:06 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] TVI Training
>
> Allison.
> thank you for giving your opinion and your insight.
> I have always heard the good things, and one of them is that the program 
> had
> the NFB philosopy.
> I went through the University of northern colorado program for teaching
> blind students.
> I would just say that it isn't perfect, and that there are many other
> university programs that aren't perfect either.
> Even if you do get the degree and complete the program.
> There is still lots of obstacles that face bind teachers of blind 
> students.
> We are told about the shortage.  But noone considers the things that blind
> teachers have to go through and the idea that a blind teacher still has a
> hard time to land and keep their jobs.
> those who are successful don't or won't help others.
> I am being honest as well.
> JMO!
> Best,
> Melissa R Green
> Hold fast to dreams,
> For if dreams die
> Life is a broken-winged bird,
> That cannot fly.
> Langston Hughes
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allison Hilliker" <AllisonH at benetech.org>
> To: "Professionals in Blindness Education Division List"
> <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] TVI Training
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I went to Louisiana Tech for the TBS program for about 6 months in 2007. 
> It
>
> absolutely has the best blindness philosophy and beliefs in the capability
> of blind people around. You'll definitely get the best teacher education
> there.
>
> That said, Jewel is right, it is located in the middle of nowhere. I 
> didn't
>
> care for Ruston at all and that's why I left the program. I loved my
> instructors and my classes, but they only lasted for about 12 hours a week
> and the rest of the week I was still stuck living in the small town south.
> And the lack of transportation is a huge problem when trying to do your
> field work as most blind students do not live in Ruston and you'll need to
> hire drivers to get to neighboring towns. I was able to get rides with
> friends sometimes, but when a quarter's worth of classes require more than
> 30 hours of field work then depending on friends is not necessarily
> practical. I was spending a lot of money on drivers to do field work. 
> Also,
>
> I was the only blind student in the program, and most of my instructors 
> were
>
> also sighted, so  I didn't necessarily feel like I was getting many
> alternative technique suggestions for how to be an effective blind 
> teacher.
>
> While The Louisiana Center does have many blind instructors, Louisiana 
> Tech
>
> did not and those were the people I was working with in my grad program. 
> And
>
> most of all, I just did not like the small town culture. Many people may
> love it, but I'm not one of them.
>
> Sorry fellow NFB members. I realize this post won't be popular, but I felt
> moved to be honest. I've been in the NFB for years, consider myself a
> philosophical purest, and am  a Louisiana Center graduate. Even so, I have
> to be honest about Ruston. It's not the greatest place to spend two years 
> of
>
> one's life. We desperately need more than one NFB-focused graduate program
> in this country because Ruston is not an option for everyone. It has many
> limitations that I feel we need to be real about.
>
> JMO,
> Allison
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pibe-division [mailto:pibe-division-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jewel
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List
> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] TVI Training
>
> I looked into Louisiana Tech, too. I really liked the program description,
> and I really like their director, who took the time to speak to me. 
> However,
>
> this school is in the middle of nowhere. There is no bus system. The only
> way to get to any good shopping is by Greyhound bus. And getting around 
> town
>
> unless you're walking is difficult. You would have to bum rides from 
> fellow
>
> students. That is the bad side of Louisiana Tech, but their program looks
> really good.
> Jewel who went to Louisiana Tech last June to visit
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>    As I have said, I want to be a TVI. I am looking at training programs,
>>
>> and am leaning towards the College of New Jersey and Louisiana Tech, as I
>>
>> live in New Jersey. What are your experiences with these and other
>> programs.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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