[Pibe-division] The term, pre-Braille

Tue Dec 20 16:04:43 UTC 2016

I agree with everything you and Carlton are saying. A student who
participated in our BELL program is attending a preschool. He sees a TVI
once a week for 30 minutes with no follow up between lessons. He is 5, can
speak some but doesn't and is on the autism spectrum. The TVI says she will
not begin teaching braille until he can identify shapes like stars,
rectangles and triangles. Another student is in preschool and the TVI won't
provide braille instruction until he can identify each dot number
correctly. They both use the term "prebraille," so I am trying to
understand what either of these concepts have to do with braille. Yes, the
one student will eventually need to identify that an m is dots 1, 3 and 4
but I don't think that is necessary in preschool. I would like your
thoughts please. I would begin by teaching one of these students to
identify his name or something else that is important to him. I wouldn't
give up even if it takes time. I also strongly believe that 30 minutes 1
time per week is way too little. If he is having a bad day the one day the
TVI comes then he doesn't get anything for another week.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Dr. Denise M. Robinson via PIBE-Division <
pibe-division at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> We need to teach braille to blind just as print to sighted--same time,
> same pace or faster if the kid is ready--jump in and just do it.
>
> If TVIs used the exact same materials as the teachers teaching sighted,
> teaching those braille contractions as words are introduced JUST like the
> teachers are to the sighted, our blind students would keep pace with what
> is going on in the classroom
>
>        Dr Denise
>
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in technology, teaching, training for blind/low vision
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> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
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>
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> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
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> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
> imagination.
> --Albert Einstein
>
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> *From:* "Walker, Carlton via PIBE-Division" <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> *To:* "pibe-division at nfbnet.org" <pibe-division at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* "Walker, Carlton" <CWalker at nfb.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 19, 2016 9:02 AM
> *Subject:* [Pibe-division] The term, pre-Braille
>
> Regarding the term, pre-Braille:
>
> While the origin of this term may have been honorable (referencing the
> tactile skills needed to read Brialle efficiently and effectively, I fear
> that this term is now widely being used to stunt students' progress in
> Braille.
>
> "Pre-Braille" sounds like a big hurdle to overcome, however, it is simply
> part of the umbrella term, "pre-reading." Concepts of left and right, up
> and down, spaces indicating the end of words, etc. are common to both print
> and Braille users. Learning to recognize and differentiate text letters and
> to write them effectively is common is both print and Braille users.
> Principles of phonics and morphology are common to print and Braille users.
>
> Regular educators do not use the term "pre-print;" they refer to this
> process is "pre-reading." To my mind, the term "pre-Braille" is
> segregationist. The term does nothing but separate Braille learners from
> their print peers. The term "pre-reader" is good enough for print learners,
> and it is applicable and useful for Braille learners.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Carlton
>
>
> Carlton Anne Cook Walker, J.D., M.B.A., M.Ed.
> Manager of Braille Education Programs
> 200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
> (410) 659-9314, extension 2225 <(410)%20659-9314> | cwalker at nfb.org
> Twitter: @BrailleMom
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> Can someone please explain prebraille and why TVIs insist on prebraille
> before teaching braille? I have concerns about its use but want to better
> understand the reasoning.
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> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053
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