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pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kristen J Sims<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 09, 2009 9:22
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Professionals
in Blindness Education Division List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Pibe-division] Is
this the way to teach akindergartenerBraille?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>We do
have a few exercises where our little ones use crayons to mark answers but we
have them do it non-visually. Since our little kids cant fit into sleepshades
(blindfolds) we will find cute little sunshades in the $1 bin and color or
paint them to block out vision. Little ones who do have usable vision are
usually a hard sell when it comes to non-visual learning but the sunshades help
<u>but</u> if it is going to be a fight I don't worry about it. (Braille should
be fun not fighting!) At times after the lesson is over I will let the student
practice reading a page or two without the glasses, because this is how they
will do it in the reg classroom. Often the child with usable vision <u>will</u>
use his/her vision; it is not encouraged but instead of chastising the use of
vision I will point out how well they do when they don't try to see it. Most of
these students are praised for seeing all day, it is hard not to be the big bad
wolf when you focus on discouraging vision. Rather, ask the teacher to praise
non-visual techniques, "You did that so fast and you didn't even need to
look!"<br>
Kristen J. Sims, MEd NCLB<br>
Teacher of Blind Students<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Brandy with Discovery
Toys <a href="mailto:branlw@sbcglobal.net"><branlw@sbcglobal.net></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Professionals in Blindness Education
Division List</st1:PersonName> <a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"><pibe-division@nfbnet.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Date:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Sunday, March 8 2009 11:11 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [Pibe-division] Is this the way to teach
akindergartenerBraille?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Then no This is not acceptable. Bran<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:carrie.gilmer@gmail.com" title="carrie.gilmer@gmail.com">Carrie
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
title="pibe-division@nfbnet.org">'Professionals in Blindness Education Division
List'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:59 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [Pibe-division] Is this the way to teach
akindergartenerBraille?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Eric, Sally and Brandy,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is not/was not an exercise to learn
to mark answers. This was an exercise to learn the alphabet in the first place.
He had to find all the B’s, first by touch, then—by LOOKING and
marking with a pencil. He is not through even half way of the alphabet yet. I
am asking if this early is it typical to learn answer marking and also if it is
typical to do it visually—this had not tactile component to the circling.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I understand fully the importance of the
ability to mark answers and to do it non-visually.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brandy with Discovery Toys<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 07, 2009
9:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <personname w:st="on" /><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Professionals in Blindness Education Division List</personname /></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Pibe-division] Is
this the way to teach akindergartenerBraille?</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi,
When I was little we would put the paper on a fome board and they had us put
thumb tacks in the letter that we were supposed to be finding. We also
sometimes circled it on one of those boards so we could feel the imprint. It is
common for kids who take tests to need the skill of circling. I did this often
growing up and then my test would be translated. Hope this helps. Bran</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"We all
have our time machines. Some take us back, they're called memories. Some take
us forward, they're called dreams." <br>
Jeremy Irons<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Saturday, March 07,
2009 2:57 PM</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[Pibe-division] Is this the way to teach akindergartenerBraille?</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My son
has used sticky dots to mark things. When he used a crayon or marker, he wanted
to mark things so well he obscured what he was marking and there was no way to
move the mark to make a correction. I guess this isn't a problem as much in
kindergarten as it is later when kids are more worried about the correct
answer.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sally
Thomas</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Saturday, March 07,
2009 12:46 AM</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Re:
[Pibe-division] Is this the way to teach a kindergartenerBraille?</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>A few more thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My 1st grade
son Petras (no functional vision) uses a crayon to circle or mark numbers on
his math homework & classwork - I think that is perfectly fine &
natural.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My older son
(also no functional vision) transitioned to a pen (which he could feel) once it
was no longer age appropriate to be using a crayon.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My wife
modifies his Lithuanian Saturday school worksheets & we have Petras
similarly find letters or letter combinations with his fingers & then he
mark them off with a crayon (which he can feel) - this can all be done
tactilely without then looking at the letter; his sighted classmates also
circle print letters or letter combos with a crayon or pencil or pen ->
Petras is performing a similar task.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The marking
actually seems reasonable to me & has functional utility for a child to
independently complete homework & classwork.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am
interested in hearing about alternatives.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am less
enthusiastic about connecting the lines - this seems less functional. Seems to
me the objective would help decide how appropriate that is.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As to the
point avoiding feeling for the braille, Petras could write his letters in
English & Lithuanian long before he could recognize the dot combinations.
For the longest time he was not particularly interested in feeling the
specifics of what he actually wrote. It was really just a little after he
turned 7 that he really began to try to more intently figure out what each dot
combo represented. He has made wonderful progress this year. My eldest son know
all the letters tactilely by 2 1/2. Every kid is a little different.<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Best wishes,<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Eric V <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Carrie
Gilmer <<a href="mailto:carrie.gilmer@gmail.com">carrie.gilmer@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All
lines were directed to be drawn and circled by the student. Picture of it taken
by mother is attached.</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm attaching a
Braille sheet that came home today. I get these many times a week. Is it
strange that Brian is instructed to circle and draw lines? It appears
that he is being directed to approach Braille visually. <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Please tell me if
this is normal or acceptable for teaching a low-vision child Braille.
Please tell me if this is so far out of the norm that I should be very
concerned. <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thank you!<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>:) Carolynn<br>
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