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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Many teacher’s have a tendency
to keep up with skills that are necessary for teaching their students. If a TVI
has no Braille students for one year, naturally their Braille skills will be reduced.
The same is true if the TVI has no students using assistive technology, the TVI’s
assistive tech skills will go down. Also, what about the TVI’s who have
over 25 on their caseload and 8 students no Braille or are learning Braille. When
the student see’s the TVI for ah, twice a week, could you say that the
student is really learning Braille? Sighted children are subjected to some form
of print at least 7 hours of the school day. Blind children do not have the privilege
to see Braille but maybe 4 to 6 hours a week, when being seen by an itenerate
TVI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dr. Denise M. Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pibe-division] Comment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Poor teacher skills ARE directly related to poor student
outcomes. I have seen it over and over for the past 20 years as anyone else
has in the field who has good skills and see their students exel and
others who do not because of the teacher who is teaching them with poor
skills. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>You cannot teach what you do
not know and students cannot learn what you cannot teach them. You do not
need formal research to know this, though it would not be a bad idea to
finally put such a foolish notion to rest. But how many teachers with poor
skills are going to stand up and say "yes, please test me and show me
how poor my skills are and test my students to show everyone how far behind
they are compared to a teacher with good skills." <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:#4040FF'> Denise </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <br>
Coordinator for Blind/VI students at ESD105<br>
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<br>
509-969-3622<o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b>Sun, 6/6/10, Carrie Gilmer <i><carrie.gilmer@gmail.com></i></b>
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From: Carrie Gilmer <carrie.gilmer@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Comment<br>
To: "'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'" <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br>
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 4:12 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Right on
Denise, exactly dead on right on. Thank you for not being frustrated,
bothered and angry in silence. Carrie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Denise Mackenstadt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pibe-division@nfbnet.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pibe-division] Comment</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Recently
on AERnet I noticed a post that bothered me. I have responded and I am
sending this response to the PIBE list. Every time I think that we are
making progress something like this comment is used to justify not providing
for the needs of blind kids. Here is the post and my response:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Monaco","serif"'>Recently in response to
a question posted by Sheila one of the posts stated "Weaknesses:
1. still no published research proving or disproving that poor teacher
braille skills are responsible for poor braille outcomes for students.
Nevertheless, we've gone full steam ahead addressing a
"problem" that may not exist. Assertions by advocacy groups
are not evidence, nor are gut hunches. We need DATA. And thus
far no data exists." I find it astonishing that an
assertion is being made that teacher competency in an essential skill to be
taught to students is not relevant to student outcomes. Lack of
Data cannot take the place of common sense or best
practice. I cannot think of another subject area, for example: Language
Arts, Math, Science or Art, where a decent state licensing entity will not
expect an instructor to demonstrate competence. As a parent I would be
very concerned if my child's English teacher could not read or write
English. Let us not throw out critical thinking as an alternative to
non-existent DATA Collection. I do not want to say that legitimate research
and legitimate data results are not beneficial to best practices. But
let us not sacrifice common sense to the altar of statistics. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Mackenstadt, NOMC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mackenstadt
Rehab Services<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(206)419-9555<o:p></o:p></p>
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