<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">In addition to that Robert, many schools are going to using Carnigie math learning, which are graphics online, and are also completely inaccessible with talking software.<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>Yakima School District</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/10/10, Robert Jaquiss <I><rjaquiss@earthlink.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Robert Jaquiss <rjaquiss@earthlink.net><BR>Subject: [Pibe-division] Simulation software was:Re: “Graphic Novels”<BR>To: "Professionals in Blindness Education Division List" <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><BR>Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 8:57 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> As a returning college student, I have had two classes that use a package called Simnet from McGraw Hill Hier Education. Simnet is almost totally inaccessible. When a screen of text does appear, I can use the JAWS cursor to read it, but a reader has to use a mouse to scroll down to the next screen. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The Simnet tests are also inaccessible.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com href="http://us.mc524.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr. Denise M. Robinson</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 10, 2010 10:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] “Graphic Novels”</DIV>
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<DIV>I have something similiar I am dealing with. I have several students in financial classes that are required to use the Sim program which is a simulation of buying and selling in a market. I am making up the actual tactile image into touch form so the kids can manipulate it what is going on in the image so they can understand what is going on. If they do not touch it, they do not get it. One cannot verbally describe the image well enough</DIV>
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<DIV>We will all have to use our imaginations to figure out how to deal with these very graphic instructions/lessons/books---just keep sharing so we can all come up with something<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>Yakima School District</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/9/10, DrV <I><pumpkinracer@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: DrV <pumpkinracer@gmail.com><BR>Subject: [Pibe-division] “Graphic Novels”<BR>To: "Professionals in Blindness Education Division List" <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><BR>Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 8:18 PM<BR><BR>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have had some interesting & intriguing responses so far that I will put together & share. But most responses have been theoretical. </SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Graphic novels are & will undoubtedly be making there way onto suggested & mandatory school reading lists. </SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On a very practical level: Does anyone have any real-life experience with this that they could share?<BR></SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'm beginning to wonder if graphic novel options just being skipped over/ignored, or substituted with something else.<BR></SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Is there a plan on how to address the issue of graphic novels that are assigned reading for students in across the country?</SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Is there a coordinated plan to add graphic novels to e-braille sources such as WebBraille or Bookshare, of some sort of audio-descriptive library?<BR></SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I look forward to additional insights & experiences.</SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you.<BR></SPAN>
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<P class=yiv608381946yiv1196229266MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sincerely,</SPAN>
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