<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Count into effect everything that Heather said then head toward the same standards for the sighted population, which is Jerry Johns--that is what I do and if the kids know you are setting the same standards they reach it (depending on if they started just as early as sighted kids) or get very close--if they started later--see attached<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 18pt"><FONT color=#4040ff>       Denise </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>Yakima School District</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 4/26/11, H. Field <I><missheather@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: H. Field <missheather@comcast.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Braille Reading Speed<BR>To: "Professionals in Blindness Education Division List" <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><BR>Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 1:59 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv347881067><FONT face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Very little hard data exists on this topic. Blindness is a low incidence  disability a</FONT>nd this means that it's very difficult to put together a study with enough participants to  enable researchers to come up with valid conclusions.  There are so many variables to control for and variables  not controlled for invalidate findings. For example, readers with additional disabilities such as cerebral palsy or developmental delays  will read less well. If their reading speeds are lumped in together with the results of children who are blind only, it lowers the overall, average reading speed. Variables like age at which braille began to be taught, number of hours per week spent on reading instruction and a host of other  variables make studying braille reading and working to establish expected reading speeds  extremely difficult indeed. For years Texas School
 For The Blind has had some suggested reading speeds that teachers all over the country have used and have had very low expectations for their braille reading students as a result.  No really good studies appear to exist and well documented reading speeds don't exist to be compared with that of print readers. Anecdotal evidence has shown that  highly proficient braille readers can read in the hundreds of words per minute. but most don't read anywhere near this and, sadly, are not expected to reach such reading speeds even as adults.<BR><BR>So,  as an essay topic this is not a very good one, because the comparison data doesn't really exist. California did  do some work on math and reading standards recently. You might try searching  Google for the numbers they came p with. However, whatever numbers you do find you can be sure  that there is no large body of well designed and implemented studies that supports claims made about
 braille reading speeds.<BR>The Ryles study was not about reading speed per se.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Heather field<BR><BR>On 4/25/2011 2:43 PM, Hyde, David W. (ESC) wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE>I believe that Ruby Ryles did extensive research in this area. It may be more intensive than you want for this paper. I will look to see where I have it, or you can contact Ruby directly. You should also research The Braille Monitor and Future Reflections.



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   1. Need Data (Kim Cunningham)


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My daughter is writing a paper for college and needs current information about braille reading speeds for students. She is doing a comparison between large print readers and braille readers and would like to show that braille is equal (if not faster) than print readers. Can anyone suggest a link for this information? 
Regards,
Kim Cunningham
President, TPOBC
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