<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.17098" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone had success justifying iPad or iPhone
through rehab for either students or professionals?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lori</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr.
Denise M. Robinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pibe-division@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">Professionals in Blindness Education
Division List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 25, 2011 10:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] New
Technologies & Web-Based Education - HowNew Guidelines Impact Our
Kids</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Ah Eric</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">You have hit a major nail
on the head. You are correct about the IPAD as a wonderful tool and that a
braille display can be added--I have noticed greater success with VI than
total blind though. It is still very visual and total blind lose some aspects
of its advantage. I believe this will change as it is marvelous right now and
just gets better. The nail you hit was--teachers do not have this
knowledge yet of this tool and oh so many others. They are very overwhelmed
with keeping up with all the technology out there and not just knowing the
technogoly but all the updates that go with it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">NO, absolutely not, do the
districts and personnel know about the power of the majority of the technology
that enables the blind to become independent and NO districts do not follow
the access guidelines to make their websites accessible. This is more out of
ignorance than anything else. I have worked with many to change this, but as
you know, change is slow....too slow.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">We have a long way to
go---<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"> </DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'"><FONT
style="RIGHT: auto" color=#4040ff> Denise
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of the Blind & Visually
Impaired<BR>TechVision-Independent Contractor</DIV>
<DIV>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training</DIV>
<DIV>509-674-1853 <A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow> deniserob@gmail.com</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>
<DIV class=hr contentEditable=false
style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; PADDING-TOP: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; HEIGHT: 0px"
readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
DrV <pumpkinracer@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Professionals in Blindness
Education Division List <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 22, 2011 6:07
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Pibe-division] New Technologies & Web-Based Education - How New
Guidelines Impact Our Kids<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV id=yiv437475524>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Hi,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I had a request for the links to the
letters & FAQ sheet, so apparently the links to the letters were not
visible to all, thus I am providing those below.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I have received a few responses - all
but one have been requests for me to post the responses I get. One
individual expressed that it was their understanding that schools must use
accessible webpages & also pointed out that iPad are apparently very
accessible & that braille displays and keyboards can be linked to an
iPad for easier use. (This implies that VI teachers should now be
well-versed not only in braille notetaker technologies, but familiar with
the iPad, how it is used in the educational setting, & how to link it to
braille notetakers for students to use – something else to add to VI
teaching program curriculums if it is not already in place.)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I must admit that while it is summer
& many are on break, the shocking lack of responses means that either
this is all old news that everyone is aware of - or something that is not
common knowledge in the VI/blind communities. My concern is that if the VI
programs are not familiar with this, then it is not likely that
superintendents, principals, & regular classroom & teachers are
likewise not aware of this.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">If someone who is well-informed about
this could take the time to elaborate & share some specifics, that would
be greatly appreciated.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">The direct links are
below.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Sincerely,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Eric</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">1. June 29, 2010 US Department of
Education Dear Colleague letter: <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html</SPAN></A>.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">2. Guidelines in the form of Frequently
Asked Questions: <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/dcl-ebook-faq-201105.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/dcl-ebook-faq-201105.html</SPAN></A>.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">3. May 26, 2011 second US DOE Dear
Colleague letter stating that the same legal obligations apply to elementary
and secondary schools:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201105-ese.html"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201105-ese.html</A></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=yiv437475524gmail_quote>On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:20 PM, DrV
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:pumpkinracer@gmail.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:pumpkinracer@gmail.com">pumpkinracer@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=yiv437475524gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Hi
everyone,</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">I would greatly
appreciate clarification on Department of Education's New Accessible
Technology Guidelines.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">For those that
may have missed it, there was a posting on the NFB website in late May (<A
href="http://www.nfb.org/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=804" target=_blank
rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">www.nfb.org/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=804</SPAN></A>)
stating that</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">the US
Department of Education issued a <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">Dear Colleague
letter</SPAN></A> on June 29, 2010 informing all college and university
presidents that their institutions must be sure that emerging technologies
that they plan to deploy to students are accessible to the blind and other
students with disabilities. Guidelines in the form of <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/dcl-ebook-faq-201105.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">Frequently Asked
Questions</SPAN></A>, were issued to supplement the department’s <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-20100629.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">Dear Colleague
letter</SPAN></A>.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">The May NFB
Immediate Release Bulletin (<A
href="http://www.nfb.org/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=804" target=_blank
rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">www.nfb.org/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=804</SPAN></A>) states
that the US
Department of Education issued a <A
href="http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201105-ese.html"
target=_blank rel=nofollow><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: none">second Dear
Colleague</SPAN></A> letter issued on May 26, 2011 stating that the same
legal obligations apply to elementary and secondary schools.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Over the last
few years we have come across a number of websites at both the elementary
& middle school levels that have not been independently accessible by
the student. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Websites have
included mandatory or (strongly recommended, but technically optional)
textbook publisher’s supplemental websites – where concepts in chapter are
elaborated on, as well as the classroom teacher’s individual
webpages/calendars/assignments.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Our eldest is
transitioning to high school. Next year iPads will be piloted in some of
the classes. I am a member of our school district’s Medical Advisory Board
& at our meeting in May our new superintendent & one of the school
board members were putting forth the concept of a paper bookless,
paperless classroom in the near future – yes, they were very serious about
this.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Can someone
explain in simple clear language what the DOE’s new guidelines mean at the
practical level for our kids/students?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">It would seem
that each teacher’s webpage, the assignments they post, & websites
they suggest or require should have to be accessible.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">It would seem
that the calendar – assignment – grade posting programs that
schools/districts use, such as Edline, Grade Book Wizard, and others
should be fully accessible.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">It would seem
that the textbook publisher websites that have quizzes, study guides, and
videos that the classroom teachers either recommend or mandate be looked
at should need to be fully accessible.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">How are VI
programs & SELPAs addressing this with school districts?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">How are
district superintendents, school principals, & classroom teachers
being inform of requirements?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Is the message getting to those at
the top? (District superintendents & school principals?) If so
how?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">How effectively is this filtering
down to the classroom teachers?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I wonder how many of the above have
really even heard of it - if not, that is a real problem.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Is this a "feel good" policy
statement, or real policy that will be respected & enforced - like say
wheelchair accessibility which is taken more seriously.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">I look forward
to your insights, experiences, thoughts, & comments.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Respectfully,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv437475524MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; LETTER-SPACING: -1pt">Eric</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Pibe-division
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
ymailto="mailto:Pibe-division@nfbnet.org">Pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A><BR><A
href="http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org</A><BR>To
unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Pibe-division:<BR><A
href="http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com"
target=_blank>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com</A><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV>
<P>
<HR>
<P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>Pibe-division
mailing
list<BR>Pibe-division@nfbnet.org<BR>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org<BR>To
unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
Pibe-division:<BR>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/lori%40asmodean.net</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>