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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sally gives you excellent information below. I’ve paired my iPhone with my BrailleSense Plus via Bluetooth and the system works quite well. The braille support has some quirks (most of these are described in Anna Dresner’s and Dean Martineau’s iPhone book available from NBP).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Having said this, however, I’m going to venture an opinion that may not be popular with i-device freaks (and I love my iPhone): I see no advantage in using an i-device (either iPhone, iPod or iPad) as a note-taker except in casual circumstances. Despite assertions to the contrary, an i-device is nowhere as good as a dedicated note-taker for handling brailled notes. For instance, there’s no easy way to go to beginning of file or end of file in one keystroke. Likewise, there’s no easy way with the iPhone editors I’ve used to search a document for text.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I believe an iPhone/iPod/iPad has its place. However, as a dedicated note-taker for blind students, it ain’t there yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike Freeman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sally Thomas<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 12, 2011 6:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>My son uses his Apex with his iPhone but he is pretty adept at the touch features too. It just takes practice. He says that the iPad has an advantage for some games and some mapping stuff because there is more room to move your finger around. For most work, the Touch or iPhone work just fine. David says that since the OS for the iPhone, iPod Touch and the iPad are the same, the functionality of the BrailleNote with the iProducts are all the same. The mPower has some issues with the bluetooth connectivity, The signal can be spotty. This problem has been fixed with the Apex.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Once it is set up (through iTunes), if you triple tap the button at the bottom of the iPod Touch you will turn on VoiceOver (ask me how I know :)). David is beta testing iOS 5 right now and he says that they have made it so that a blind person can start VoiceOver independently. iOS 5 will be coming out soon. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>David is a real Apple fan boy. He really loves his iPhone and Mac.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sally Thomas</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com" title="dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr. Denise M. Robinson</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org" title="pibe-division@nfbnet.org">Professionals in Blindness Education Division List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, September 12, 2011 5:03 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I have noticed equality with the IPOD (the more advanced one=newer) and IPAD with braille display for blind. At first, it does take a sighted person to get the voice over on, bluetooth and pairing of the braille display--then practice. Yes, blind kids can get the scrolling with their fingers on the screen too, but with a braille display you can move pretty quickly without all the hiccups of trying to use your fingers on the screen. Hiccups like going somewhere you did not want to go, then trying to get back.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>IPAD will bring in more visual function so if low vision, and you can find an accessible site, visually pleasing to low vision kids, but does not add much for a totally blind child. Once again...accessible sites are the key as without accessibility the braille display won't work either. But that is true for a computer and talking software. Same problems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I have only used the refreshabraille with them, which works great, but I have to believe the braille note would go with them. I know the focus braille display does.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:#4040FF'> Denise </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <br>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<br>TechVision-Independent Contractor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>509-674-1853 <a href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" target="_blank"> deniserob@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><a href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> DrV <pumpkinracer@gmail.com><br><b>To:</b> Professionals in Blindness Education Division List <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 12, 2011 8:58 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pibe-division] iPad vs iPod as a Classroom & Homework Tool</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv558776461><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Hi everyone,<br>For a blind student, what are the functional differences between the iPad & iPod in terms of utility & access? (An iPod would seem to be preferable from a size standpoint, but it is equal to the iPad experience of a student's classmates?)<br>Are both equally accessible from a functional standpoint with respect to BrailleNote pairing? How well does BrailleNote pairing work? What are the quirks/limitations?<br>If someone could share there experience with the iPad/iPod for blind students in the classroom setting, I am sure the perspective & experience would be of interest to many on this listserv.<br>Respectfully,<br>Eric <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Pibe-division mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Pibe-division@nfbnet.org">Pibe-division@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Pibe-division:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Pibe-division mailing list<br>Pibe-division@nfbnet.org<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org<br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Pibe-division:<br>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/seacknit%40gmail.com<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>