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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting. I wonder how accurate it would be if
you do not use the traditional hand writing techniques. There is a lot more than
just the shape of the letter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dandrews@visi.com href="mailto:dandrews@visi.com">David Andrews</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pibe-division@nfbnet.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Digital
Handwritten Notes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I read that part of the reason that these kinds of devices
work, and can do OCR on hand-writing is that they also track, and know
in what order you do the strokes of writing. This helps them decide what
letters you are drawing. With a system that only has an image of
writing, it is apparently much more difficult to figure out, hence no one does
it yet.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>\At 08:37 AM 9/23/2011, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Ok Albert<BR>I had to go to my
blog to get it...if you ever need anything repeated I have set up links to
all the major products I talk about within the page on the blog<BR>but I
will save you time--here is the link on amazon<BR><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3"
eudora="autourl">http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3</A>
<BR>..remember, you MUST get the handwriting software that goes with
it--another 45 bucks...here is another issue...it does take sighted help to
select the image and translate it, unless you have practiced your mouse
skills then you may be able to do it yourself--<BR>I really believe a blind
company needs to get a hold of this so they can put it in camera size AND
improve some of the inaccessible parts like the selecting of the
image<BR> <BR><FONT color=#4040ff>
Denise <BR></FONT> <BR>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of
the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>TechVision-Independent
Contractor<BR>Specialist in blind
programming/teaching/training<BR>509-674-1853 <A
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<DL><BR>
<DD><FONT size=2>From:</B> Albert J Rizzi
<albert@myblindspot.org><BR>
<DD>To:</B> 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'
<pibe-division@nfbnet.org><BR>
<DD>Sent:</B> Friday, September 23, 2011 4:59 AM<BR>
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten
Notes<BR></FONT><BR>
<DD>Ok. what is the name of that software?<BR><BR>
<DD>Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.<BR>
<DD>Founder<BR>
<DD>My Blind Spot, Inc.<BR>
<DD>90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.<BR>
<DD>New York, New York 10004<BR>
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eudora="autourl">www.myblindspot.org</A><BR>
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<DD>Fax: 212-858-5759<BR>
<DD>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
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<DD>From: <A
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<DD>[<A href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise
M.<BR>
<DD>Robinson<BR>
<DD>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:45 AM<BR>
<DD>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR>
<DD>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR><BR>
<DD>Albert..to add to the story. When I first got the digimemo and tried
it out,<BR>
<DD>then translated it and only got an inaccessible PDF image I was
pretty<BR>
<DD>disgusted, and that is putting it mildly....more research into this
and I<BR>
<DD>found the handwriting translation software. I installed it and when I
copied<BR>
<DD>that image and it made text and jaws talked it...I thought I had gone
to<BR>
<DD>heaven....it was and is that incredible. So the moral here is....make
sure<BR>
<DD>you get both--the tool AND the extra software--smile<BR><BR><BR>
<DD> Denise <BR><BR>
<DD>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>
<DD>Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>
<DD>TechVision-Independent Contractor<BR>
<DD>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training<BR>
<DD>509-674-1853 <A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">deniserob@gmail.com</A> <<A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
mailto:deniserob@gmail.com</A>> <BR><BR>
<DD><A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD>________________________________<BR><BR>
<DD> From: Albert J Rizzi <<A
href="mailto:albert@myblindspot.org">albert@myblindspot.org</A> ><BR>
<DD> To: 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division
List'<BR>
<DD><<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">
pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>><BR>
<DD> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:15 AM<BR>
<DD> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten
Notes<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Yes. print is print and cursive is cursive. So I am
fascinated to<BR>
<DD>learn that<BR>
<DD> this tool can interpret hand printed writing. Wow.
<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.<BR>
<DD> Founder<BR>
<DD> My Blind Spot, Inc.<BR>
<DD> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.<BR>
<DD> New York, New York 10004<BR>
<DD> <A href="http://www.myblindspot.org/"
eudora="autourl">www.myblindspot.org</A><BR>
<DD> PH: 917-553-0347<BR>
<DD> Fax: 212-858-5759<BR>
<DD> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't
interrupt the one<BR>
<DD>who is<BR>
<DD> doing it."<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn<BR>
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<DD> -----Original Message-----<BR>
<DD> From: <A
href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org">pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A><BR>
<DD> [<A href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org"
eudora="autourl"> mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>] On Behalf
Of Dr. Denise M.<BR>
<DD> Robinson<BR>
<DD> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20 PM<BR>
<DD> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division
List<BR>
<DD> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten
Notes<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Albert<BR>
<DD> I need to be careful here, yes, hand written notes
as in printed<BR>
<DD>text. I did<BR>
<DD> try cursive, but it misses too many of the
characters and does not<BR>
<DD>translate<BR>
<DD> well...printing letters as in from the hand....did
I do a better job<BR>
<DD>of<BR>
<DD> explaining?--smile<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Denise <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>
<DD> Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>
<DD> TechVision-Independent Contractor<BR>
<DD> Specialist in blind
programming/teaching/training<BR>
<DD> 509-674-1853 <A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">deniserob@gmail.com</A> <<A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
mailto:deniserob@gmail.com</A>> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A><BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> ________________________________<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> From: Albert J Rizzi <<A
href="mailto:albert@myblindspot.org">albert@myblindspot.org</A> ><BR>
<DD> To: 'Professionals in
Blindness Education Division List'<BR>
<DD> <<A
href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>
><BR>
<DD> Sent: Thursday, September
22, 2011 2:25 PM<BR>
<DD> Subject: Re:
[Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Denise,<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Not sure I am understanding
you. when I saw it demonstrated it<BR>
<DD>was<BR>
<DD> doing so<BR>
<DD> with printed text. are you
saying it can also do the same thing<BR>
<DD>with<BR>
<DD> hand<BR>
<DD> written documents?<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.<BR>
<DD> Founder<BR>
<DD> My Blind Spot, Inc.<BR>
<DD> 90 Broad Street - 18th
Fl.<BR>
<DD> New York, New York
10004<BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://www.myblindspot.org/"
eudora="autourl">www.myblindspot.org</A><BR>
<DD> PH: 917-553-0347<BR>
<DD> Fax: 212-858-5759<BR>
<DD> "The person who says it
cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the<BR>
<DD>one<BR>
<DD> who is<BR>
<DD> doing it."<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Visit us on Facebook
LinkedIn<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> -----Original
Message-----<BR>
<DD> From: <A
href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org">pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A><BR>
<DD> [<A
href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>] On Behalf Of Dr.<BR>
<DD>Denise M.<BR>
<DD> Robinson<BR>
<DD> Sent: Thursday, September
22, 2011 5:16 PM<BR>
<DD> To: Professionals in
Blindness Education Division List<BR>
<DD> Subject: Re:
[Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Albert<BR>
<DD> Yes, I am so amazed at the
accuracy too. I tried drawing pies<BR>
<DD>and<BR>
<DD> other<BR>
<DD> graphs and though when you
translate the handwriting into text<BR>
<DD>it<BR>
<DD> will take<BR>
<DD> out the pictures, but the
words are still there. If low vision,<BR>
<DD>you<BR>
<DD> can get<BR>
<DD> a PDF image of it and
enlarge for the low vision student, or<BR>
<DD>just<BR>
<DD> keep it on<BR>
<DD> the computer and they can
enlarge it themselves...technology is<BR>
<DD> really a wow<BR>
<DD> thing<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD>
Denise <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> Denise M. Robinson, TVI,
Ph.D. <BR>
<DD> Teacher of the Blind &
Visually Impaired<BR>
<DD> TechVision-Independent
Contractor<BR>
<DD> Specialist in blind
programming/teaching/training<BR>
<DD>
509-674-1853 <A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">deniserob@gmail.com</A> <<A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
mailto:deniserob@gmail.com</A>><BR><BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A><BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
From: Albert J Rizzi <<A
href="mailto:albert@myblindspot.org">albert@myblindspot.org</A> ><BR>
<DD> To:
'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List'<BR>
<DD> <<A
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><BR>
<DD>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:51 PM<BR>
<DD>
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Denise and all,<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD> I
actually had a friend who uses this tool demonstrate the<BR>
<DD>same<BR>
<DD> in<BR>
<DD> my<BR>
<DD>
presence. It is fantastic and very very precise. It is more<BR>
<DD> precise<BR>
<DD> then my<BR>
<DD>
kursweil scanner. <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.<BR>
<DD>
Founder<BR>
<DD> My
Blind Spot, Inc.<BR>
<DD> 90
Broad Street - 18th Fl.<BR>
<DD> New
York, New York 10004<BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://www.myblindspot.org/"
eudora="autourl">www.myblindspot.org</A><BR>
<DD> PH:
917-553-0347<BR>
<DD>
Fax: 212-858-5759<BR>
<DD>
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD> one<BR>
<DD> who is<BR>
<DD>
doing it."<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
<DD>
From: <A
href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org">pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A><BR>
<DD> [<A
href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>] On Behalf Of Dr.<BR>
<DD> Denise M.<BR>
<DD>
Robinson<BR>
<DD>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:32 PM<BR>
<DD> To:
Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR>
<DD>
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD> Ok
Lori--there is<BR>
<DD> The
NFB-Kurzweil reader is the size of a phone because it is<BR>
<DD>a<BR>
<DD> phone<BR>
<DD> but<BR>
<DD>
also has a camera attached. You hold it over anything in<BR>
<DD>print<BR>
<DD> about<BR>
<DD> your<BR>
<DD>
elbow to arm length, take a picture and it will read the<BR>
<DD>text to<BR>
<DD> you. I will<BR>
<DD> do
a longer blog on this to more fully explain its<BR>
<DD>capabilites <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Denise <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>
<DD>
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>
<DD>
TechVision-Independent Contractor<BR>
<DD>
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training<BR>
<DD>
509-674-1853 <A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">deniserob@gmail.com</A><BR>
<DD><<A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
mailto:deniserob@gmail.com</A>><BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A><BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
From: Zephyr <<A
href="mailto:twilight2@kconline.com">twilight2@kconline.com</A> ><BR>
<DD>
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR>
<DD>
<<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>
><BR>
<DD>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:04 PM<BR>
<DD>
Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Wow! It's not Sci-fi any more?<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Now, I want an ap that can scan and read hand-writing. I<BR>
<DD>can<BR>
<DD> always<BR>
<DD>
hope there already something in existence that I am just in<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD> dark<BR>
<DD> about.<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Thanks for sharing the topics which should be brought to<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD>
attention of all blind students, families, and teachers and<BR>
<DD> administrators.<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>
<DD>
From: Dr. Denise M. Robinson<BR>
<DD>
<<A href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com%3E%A0" eudora="autourl">
mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com> </A><BR>
<DD>
To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division<BR>
<DD>List<BR>
<DD>
<<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>> <BR>
<DD>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:44 PM<BR>
<DD>
Subject: [Pibe-division] Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Digital Handwritten Notes<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD><<A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html">
http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/2011/09/digital-handwritten-notes.html</A>
<BR>
<DD>
> <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Digital Handwritten Notes. it sounds like an<BR>
<DD> oxymoron...kind<BR>
<DD> of
like a hairy bald guy, but it is here.<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
The writing surface is about the size of a small<BR>
<DD>piece<BR>
<DD> of<BR>
<DD>
paper. The whole board is light and easy to carry and about<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD> size<BR>
<DD> of an<BR>
<DD>
8x11 piece of paper. It is a tiny computer and you can add<BR>
<DD>more<BR>
<DD> RAM-<BR>
<DD> with a<BR>
<DD>
memory card. <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
The blind student can take the digital note-taking<BR>
<DD> device to<BR>
<DD> a
class where the teacher is very driven by writing on the<BR>
<DD> board.<BR>
<DD> The blind<BR>
<DD>
student hands it to a sighted student and she takes notes on<BR>
<DD>it.<BR>
<DD> At<BR>
<DD> the end<BR>
<DD> of
class, the sighted student rips off the pages for<BR>
<DD>themself<BR>
<DD> and<BR>
<DD> hands the<BR>
<DD>
board back to the blind student. The blind student can then<BR>
<DD> download<BR>
<DD> all the<BR>
<DD>
notes onto the computer. In tangent with this is a<BR>
<DD>handwriting<BR>
<DD> recognition<BR>
<DD>
tool, which translates the handwriting into digital text<BR>
<DD>that<BR>
<DD> talking<BR>
<DD>
software can read. Note taking made easy.<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
This is the one I have been using and as long as the<BR>
<DD>
handwritten notes are legible, the pad can read it to the<BR>
<DD> computer.<BR>
<DD> SolidTek<BR>
<DD>
DigiMemo 692 Digital Notepad with Memory by SolidTek<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD> <BR>
<DD><<A
href="http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r">
http://www.amazon.com/SolidTek-DigiMemo-692-Digital-Notepad/dp/B0009OD4CS/r</A>
<BR>
<DD>
ef=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316716386&sr=8-3> <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
If you read this information in my blog,<BR>
<DD> <A
href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/">http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/</A>
you can just click on<BR>
<DD>the<BR>
<DD> links and it<BR>
<DD>
will take you directly to the product, or if you are using<BR>
<DD> talking<BR>
<DD> software,<BR>
<DD>
just bring up your links and you can go to the product. This<BR>
<DD>is<BR>
<DD> true<BR>
<DD> for all<BR>
<DD> the
information in the blog.<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Denise <BR>
<DD>
<BR>
<DD>
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>
<DD>
Teacher of the Blind & Visually Impaired<BR>
<DD>
TechVision-Independent Contractor<BR>
<DD>
Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training<BR>
<DD>
509-674-1853 <A
href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">deniserob@gmail.com</A><BR>
<DD>
<<A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" eudora="autourl">
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