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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Not every child has a para, and really in high
school most kids don't. I went to school wwith out a para and so do and did many
others. I'm pretty sure her Son doesn't have 1, and this would need to be
prepared. I also did college math with an after class reader not someone sitting
by me. Yes I'm a <BR>Braille reader. Try to think more in line of how will the
child do this independently instead of assuming the kid has a right arm person.
I know a blind college math professor and he has a reader, but can do problems
on his own.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr.
Denise M. Robinson</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:00
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Accessible
Graphing Calculator,Duxbury with Scientific N...</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Sally,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Yes, to what Eric is saying with a bit more.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Windows 7 offers a fantastic very accessible scientific calculator,
using Jaws. However, the graphing part is still not there--The para does up
the graph then with wikki sticks the blind child can graph what they just
calculated. This still remains an issue in the field.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Back to AGC--same issue. Yes, blind students can input the
information, but without a graphic embosser, the sound that it plays is not
enough feedback for the blind student to understand what he just did. So if
they are using AGC, para does up the sheet and wikki sticks graph the lines.
If the child has some vision, you can enlarge the screen enough to see the
graph of the AGC</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>Teacher of the Blind & Visually
Impaired<BR>TechVision-Independent Contractor</DIV>
<DIV>Specialist in blind programming/teaching/training</DIV>
<DIV>509-674-1853 <A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com"
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "EricGuillory@aol.com"
<EricGuillory@aol.com><BR><B><SPAN
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pibe-division@nfbnet.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 6, 2011 9:27
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
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<DIV>Sally,</DIV>
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<DIV>You and I both! I like and respect Susan O, but, truth-to-tell, she is
the only person with whom I have ever spoken who has given the AGC a
positive rating. I think that, for the purpose of creating tactile graphics,
it comes down to a high-quality reader with an understanding of mathematics
and the requisite terminology, tactile graph paper, Wikki Stix, and other
low-tech tools. As tech savvy as I am and I know your son is, that isn't
always the most feasible solution. </DIV>
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<DIV>As for the utilization of Sci Notebook with DBT: I personally have not
done so and have gotten mixed reviews from those who have. It is certainly
doable, but I think patience and proofreading are in order if you undertake
it.</DIV>
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<DIV>I look forward to continued discussion on this vital issue.</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 10/6/2011 11:13:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
seacknit@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am interested in finding an accessible
graphing calculator solution that really works. It has to be useful
even without a Tiger Embosser. Also, does anyone use Scientific notebook
with Duxbury to create math problems for kids? How does it
work? Would you recommend it?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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