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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>hi
Denise,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>no, i was asking about how you do a session like
tandem when the student is having problems and jaws won't function properly and
the instructor can't "cheat" and use remaining vision to talk the student
through fixing the problem.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Bryan Schulz<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:25
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Virtual
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<DIV><SPAN>Bryan,<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>No, it does not require vision. My blind students do this with me.
I just give them verbal directions and they follow them. Once you learn the
keyboard, you can operate many aspects of the computer with no voice. My blind
students can sit at any computer and open Word, write material, print it off
or send an email all based on keystrokes and just knowing the keyboard. I do
this myself all the time, hitting keystrokes to do what I want without any
vision on the task.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#4040ff> Denise </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>CEO, TechVision</DIV>
<DIV>Specialist in blind technology/teaching/training</DIV>
<DIV>email: <A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>yourtechvision@gmail.com</A><BR>Website with hundreds of
lessons: yourtechvision.com <BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Bryan Schulz
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>hi,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>sounds good but as i suspected, depends on
residual vision.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Have you found a way to do this when jaws is
screwed up without vision?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Bryan Schulz<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 19, 2011
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Pibe-division] Virtual
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<DIV class=yiv443116142post-header></DIV>When one of my students is having
difficulties with their Jaws or needs help installing it, I need to
connect to their computer a different way than through <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>Jaws TANDEM</A>. There are many ways to do remote access,
but I chose to connect yesterday through <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>SKYPE</A>. For those new to the idea, remote access is where
someone can help you resolve computer problems, no matter where you or
they are in the world. You just need a phone line, but better is a
wireless connection...anything works though.<BR><BR>The student called and
then I gave her directions on the <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>key commands</A> so I could call up her
computer.<BR><BR>Within minutes her Jaws was fixed. I then gave her the
JAWS commands to pull up her computer using <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>JAWS TANDEM</A> and continued her lesson.<BR><BR>When you
connect remotely using anything else other than <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>JAWS TANDEM</A>, you will not be able to hear JAWS unless
the person turns him way up, which I have done also depending on the
issue, but you miss too much information. To truly check to make sure JAWS
is working correctly you must pull the students' computer up using <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>TANDEM</A>. <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>I had her and SKYPE </A>on one of my monitors, still
connected remotely and then pulled her <A
href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/products/jawsinternet" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>computer up using TANDEM</A> on the other monitor. I could
easily watch the interaction on both screens, tweaking as I needed. Well
actually having her tweak. In general, I will not touch my keyboard to
control their machine, as this is a great chance for the student to learn
how to fix their own problems. <BR><BR>The point is giving them applicable
skills that will work for a lifetime, so when they are on their own, they
can fix their own issues as they come up. My older students who have long
since graduated, can just email me now with a problem and I can give them
the answer back through email. Rarely do I have to pull their machines
up.<BR><BR>Give someone a fish and they eat for a day.<BR>Teach them how
to fish and they eat for a lifetime!
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<DIV><SPAN
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color=#4040ff> Denise
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>CEO, TechVision</DIV>
<DIV>Specialist in blind technology/teaching/training</DIV>
<DIV>email: <A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com">yourtechvision@gmail.com</A><BR>Website
with hundreds of lessons: <A href="http://yourtechvision.com"
target=_blank>yourtechvision.com</A> <BR></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank><BR></A></DIV>
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