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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi, I have both an Apex, and an I phone, and while
I use them together and it is awesome, I also use them apart. I had a problem
with my adapter for the apex and have been able to do just fine with my laptop
and Iphone and am quite happy with it. Sarah it is quite negative for you to say
there no asp for blind people. The following aps work with voice over and work
for many purposes. I can use the alarm, calendar, note taking, voice memos,
weather, money identifier, clocks and timers, a few games, email, tenting,
Internet as if the site works for others on Iphones voice over reads it,
Facebook, paypal, and several more. So to say there are not aps for blind people
is nuts. I also have the color identifier and while it isn't perfect I still
have a 3g and plan to get the 4s once my business is reopened in my new town.
I'm also interested in the ap that will read documents but haven't got it. O I
also use navagon it works in that I can get directions, phone numbers, websites,
and more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bran</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"When we treat children's play as seriously as it deserves, we are helping
them feel the joy that's to be found in the creative spirit. It's the things we
play with and the people who help us play that make a great difference in our
lives." <BR>— Fred Rogers </DIV>
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<DIV>Brandy Wojcik<BR>Discovery Toys Educational Consultant and Team
Leader<BR><A
href="http://www.playtoachieve.com">www.playtoachieve.com</A><BR>(512)
689-5045</DIV>
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<DIV>Looking for team members nation wide!</DIV>
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<A title=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr.
Denise M. Robinson</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] re note
taking</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Sara</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>If you used the refreshabraille, you would never even need to touch
the screen on an iphone...it can all be done through the tiny display. I
believe the point is, if you want to be really portable, an iphone and
refreshabraille display will let you go anywhere and do just about anything,
connect to the internet, do email, etc and put it in a small purse....that
easy, that portable</SPAN></DIV>
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color=#4040ff> Denise </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>CEO, TechVision</DIV>
<DIV>Specialist in blind technology/teaching/training</DIV>
<DIV>email: <A href="mailto:deniserob@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>yourtechvision@gmail.com</A><BR>Website with hundreds of
lessons: yourtechvision.com <BR></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://blindgeteducated.blogspot.com/" rel=nofollow
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Sara Rooz
<sararooz@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
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pibe-division@nfbnet.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:24
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Pibe-division]
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Fellow Educators and blind
consumers:</SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=yiv1859987346MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Below is my opinion about note
taking. To my knowledge the ipad and <SPAN> </SPAN>the iphone do not
have many apps for blind users. It's true that aph rerreshabraille costs
$1,800 with 18 cells. But Freedom Scientific sells a braille display that
can be connected to the computer, but you would need to ask about connecting
the braille display for hte iphone for $1,3395 with 20 cells of refreshable
braille. Regarding purchasing a note taker or using a braille display with
the iphone is a personal choice. I do not have the desire to use an iphone
since the voiceover feature andand the need to tap to use the
<SPAN> </SPAN>touch screen do not appeal to me. I also use my note
taker for personal and <SPAN> </SPAN>professional use and prefer to
store information in braille rather than in prprint. Freedom Scientific has
great technical support and I do not see the need for me to get a Iphone or
Ipad. I am ok using a computer with a braille display attached to write up
professional documents and a note taker to store confidential information on
in braille. Each person has different needs, so one option does not fit each
person's needs. </SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sara Rooz</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=yiv1859987346MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Certified Teacher of the Blind
and Visually Impaired in New York</SPAN></DIV>
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