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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com
href="mailto:dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com">Dr. Denise M. Robinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 09, 2013 9:13 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP
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you get incomplete links, just do a google search on what you have and the rest
comes up...here it is<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.pathstoliteracy.org/common-core-standards-and-students-visual-impairments">http://www.pathstoliteracy.org/common-core-standards-and-students-visual-impairments</A><BR>
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<DIV>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <BR>CEO, TechVision, LLC<BR><SPAN>Specialist
in technology, teaching, training for blind/low
vision</SPAN><BR>423-573-6413<BR><BR>Website with hundreds of informational
articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all
done with keystrokes: <A href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>www.yourtechvision.com </A><BR><BR>"The person who says it cannot
be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is<BR>doing it." --<CITE>Chinese
Proverb</CITE><BR><BR>Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid:
humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful
beyond imagination.<BR><CITE>--Albert Einstein</CITE><BR><BR>It's kind of fun to
do the impossible.<BR><CITE>--Walt Disney</CITE></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
Karen Palau <kapa3960@verizon.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Professionals in Blindness Education
Division List <pibe-division@nfbnet.org> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 9, 2013 6:30
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<DIV class=y_msg_container><BR>Hi:<BR><BR>I tried that link, but my screen
reader indicates that the page cannot be <BR>found. Does anyone have any
suggestions about how I can get this info about <BR>the Common Core standards
used in Maryland?<BR>Thanks in advance.<BR><BR>Karen<BR><BR>-----Original
Message----- <BR>From: Marianne Denning<BR>Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013
7:20 PM<BR>To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR>Subject:
Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP goals<BR><BR>Here is the link where
I found the
information.<BR>www.pathstoliteracy.org/common-core-standards-and-students-visual-im...<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On
9/8/13, Marianne Denning <<A href="mailto:marianne@denningweb.com"
ymailto="mailto:marianne@denningweb.com">marianne@denningweb.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> Here is the document containing the Maryland braille math
standards.<BR>> If you are successful I would like a copy. I just
have not had time<BR>> to work with it yet. California and Utah also
have braille standards.<BR>><BR>> On 9/8/13, Karen Palau <<A
href="mailto:kapa3960@verizon.net"
ymailto="mailto:kapa3960@verizon.net">kapa3960@verizon.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> How can we get a copy of the Maryland Common Core
standards? I'll take<BR>>> them<BR>>><BR>>> in any
format even though I am a Jaws user. Perhaps I can scan them
and<BR>>> pass them along to others on this list. Please let me
know how I can<BR>>> access<BR>>><BR>>> these
standards.<BR>>> Thanks in advance.<BR>>><BR>>>
Karen<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>> From:
Marianne Denning<BR>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 5:12
PM<BR>>> To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division
List<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] Feedback on Nemeth IEP
goals<BR>>><BR>>> Greg, Maryland has developed braille standards
for their state<BR>>> standards. I don't know if they use common
core or not but I can<BR>>> email you the document if that might
help. I don't live in Maryland<BR>>> but I looked at it. I
am blind and had difficulty with the document<BR>>> because it is not
accessible to JAWS. If there are people from<BR>>> Maryland on
this list please put in additional information.<BR>>><BR>>> On
9/8/13, Greg Aikens <<A href="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com">gpaikens@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>> Hi Marianne and all,<BR>>>> Thanks for your
thoughts. Counting up the nemeth symbols she will need<BR>>>>
is<BR>>>><BR>>>> a<BR>>>> good idea. Her
baseline will be fairly high because of the way they are<BR>>>>
teaching math now using common core, but this does allow me to
measure<BR>>>> her<BR>>>> progress toward an annual
goal. She has been introduced to most of the<BR>>>> major
Nemeth symbols that you need before algebra
already.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I had a 4th grader last year and I
found that most of our instructional<BR>>>> time<BR>>>> was
spent exploring spatial layouts for the different common core<BR>>>>
strategies<BR>>>> and understanding concepts like writing out the
multiple steps to solve<BR>>>> a<BR>>>> problem and show
your work. These items take up such a
substantial<BR>>>> part<BR>>>> of my instruction that it
seems appropriate to keep track of it with an<BR>>>> objective if
possible. Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might
do<BR>>>> this?<BR>>>><BR>>>> As to not writing a
Nemeth goal at all: Even though she currently has no<BR>>>> deficits
in Nemeth, she will require Nemeth instruction as new concepts<BR>>>>
and<BR>>>> symbols arise. It is my understanding that if I am
going to give a<BR>>>> student<BR>>>> service time, best
practice would be to have that time attached to a<BR>>>>
goal<BR>>>><BR>>>> or<BR>>>>
objective.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks for your thoughts and
suggestions.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Greg Aikens, M.
Ed.<BR>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually
impaired<BR>>>> Cobb County School District<BR>>>> <A
href="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com">gpaikens@gmail.com</A><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Marianne Denning <<A
href="mailto:marianne@denningweb.com"
ymailto="mailto:marianne@denningweb.com">marianne@denningweb.com</A>><BR>>>>
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> Could you identify the new nemeth
symbols she will learn and indicate<BR>>>>> she will read and
braille these symbols with a percentage of accuracy<BR>>>>> on a
number of tries? I am not sure I would even write a nemeth
goal<BR>>>>> for her since it does not appear to be an
issue. Nemeth is her method<BR>>>>> of completing math just
like all of the math symbols are how sighted<BR>>>>> children
complete math and we don't write goals for sighted
children<BR>>>>> unless they are having specific problems.
Just my personal thoughts.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> On 9/8/13,
Greg Aikens <<A href="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com">gpaikens@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>>>> Hello colleagues,<BR>>>>>> I'm
looking for input on how others write IEP goals for nemeth
in<BR>>>>>> elementary<BR>>>>>> grades, or even
for older students. What I currently do is write
a<BR>>>>>> generic<BR>>>>>> goal to improve
Nemeth skills and then write specific objectives<BR>>>>>>
defining<BR>>>>>> what I will measure etc. I choose these
objectives by selecting a<BR>>>>>>
handful<BR>>>>>> of math skills covered in that grade.
For example, 1st grade common<BR>>>>>>
core<BR>>>>>> standards include writing from 1-100 and so I
would write a Nemeth<BR>>>>>> objective<BR>>>>>>
for the same. However, I generally only select topics that will
be<BR>>>>>> Nemeth<BR>>>>>> code intensive, such
as working problems in vertical format. Because<BR>>>>>>
I<BR>>>>>> am<BR>>>>>> not a math specialist
though, this feels arbitrary to me and<BR>>>>>>
inevitably,<BR>>>>>> some of my objectives are only addressed
during one quarter of the<BR>>>>>>
year.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> The above method works
for many of my students who have demonstrated<BR>>>>>> deficits
and needs in particular parts of Nemeth instruction.<BR>>>>>>
However,<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
I<BR>>>>>> am<BR>>>>>> working on an IEP for a
student who has excelled with every<BR>>>>>> Nemeth/abacus/math
related concept I have introduced in braille. My<BR>>>>>>
only<BR>>>>>> specific goal for her this next year is to master
the Nemeth concepts<BR>>>>>> necessary to complete the 4th
grade math curriculum, but I'm having a<BR>>>>>>
hard<BR>>>>>> time putting that in a measurable
form.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Any advice or input
would be appreciated.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Thanks,<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Greg Aikens, M.
Ed.<BR>>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually
impaired<BR>>>>>> Cobb County School
District<BR>>>>>> <A href="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:gpaikens@gmail.com">gpaikens@gmail.com</A><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>
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