<font face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">No, not CVI.  But he has some processing issues.  I've been bumping up the clarity of the 'blueprints' and suggesting that he examine a 'real' prototype alongside the blueprints until he makes the connections.  Also asking him to highlight the 'dotted lines' that represent the backsides of the images for clarity.  <div>Part of the issue is the fact that the images use a font that is not common one and the images are pdf's with the numbers often represented at an angle.  We can go in and rewrite (by hand) each number for the dimensions.  I'm attaching an example of one to this email if anyone would like to see what we're managing.  I ran the image through a photo program and increased the contrast which helped him with the details, and eliminated the gray background.  </div><div>Thanks for any assistance here...the teacher told me that the diagrams are only going to become more and more detailed as the class progresses. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you, Amy</div><div><br><font color="#990099">-----"PIBE-Division" <pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org> wrote: -----</font><div class="iNotesHistory" style="padding-left:5px;"><div style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left:solid black 2px;">To: Professionals in Blindness Education Division List      <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br>From: "Dr. Denise M. Robinson via PIBE-Division" <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br>Sent by: "PIBE-Division" <pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org><br>Date: 10/14/2016 08:40AM<br>Cc: "Dr. Denise M. Robinson" <dmehlenbacher@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [Pibe-division] {Spam?} CAD plan reading for low vision<br><br><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><font color="#000000">Does he have CVI Amy--that is a whole other issue-he will need hands on and a lot of explanation of what he is actually touching<br><div><span></span></div><div> </div><div class="signature"><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Brush Script MT';COLOR:black;FONT-SIZE:18pt;"><font color="#4040ff">       Dr Denise </font></span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Brush Script MT';COLOR:black;FONT-SIZE:18pt;"></span> <span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">    </span><span class="tab">     </span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"><br></span></div><div>Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <br>CEO, TechVision, LLC<br><span>Specialist in technology, teaching, training for blind/low vision</span><br>423-573-6413<br><br>Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/">www.yourtechvision.com </a><br><br>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is<br> doing it." --<cite>Chinese Proverb</cite><br><br>Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond imagination.<br><cite>--Albert Einstein</cite><br><br>It's kind of fun to do the impossible.<br><cite>--Walt Disney</cite></div></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9309"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9304" style="display: block;"> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9303"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9302"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9301"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9300"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9328" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9327" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> marianne via PIBE-Division <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Professionals in Blindness Education Division List' <pibe-division@nfbnet.org> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> marianne <marianne@denningweb.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:00 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Pibe-division] {Spam?} CAD plan reading for low vision<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9329"><br><div id="yiv5782130259"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9333"><div class="yiv5782130259WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9332"><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9331"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9330">What class is this? I am trying to understand what he needs to learn.</span></div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9334"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">  </span></div><div class="yiv5782130259yqt2939465414" id="yiv5782130259yqt65674"><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9336"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476447904758_9335"> PIBE-Division [mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amy_Brush--- via PIBE-Division<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:40 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> nfb group <pibe-division@nfbnet.org><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Amy_Brush@caboces.org<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [Pibe-division] {Spam?} CAD plan reading for low vision</span></div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal">  </div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Hello all, </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I have a low vision 10th grade/regular ed student; using visio </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">I am seeing difficulty for him in reading the 'plans' due to lots of detail that needs to be transferred to the program for use.  My first thought is to simplify the drawings as much as possible, using high contrast/enlargement.  However; I am hearing that he still has difficulty in managing the concepts presented visually (2d to 3d translation).  </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Has anyone every managed this type of problem with a student--what would you suggest we try?  I considered use of a prototype and measuring the actual product, but fear this would remove the learning of the concept.  </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Thank you for your time in advance, </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv5782130259MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">Amy</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt2939465414" id="yqt08900">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">PIBE-Division mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:PIBE-Division@nfbnet.org" href="mailto:PIBE-Division@nfbnet.org">PIBE-Division@nfbnet.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/pibe-division_nfbnet.org</a><br clear="none">To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for PIBE-Division:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/pibe-division_nfbnet.org/dmehlenbacher%40yahoo.com</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></font></div> 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