<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Probably very true!<br><br><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 47px; text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">Ericka Short</span><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 47px; text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">1750 Fordem Ave. #508</div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 47px; text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">Madison. WI. 53704</div><div style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 47px; text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">608-665-3170</div><div><br><div> from my iPhone 6s</div></div></div><div><br>On Dec 19, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Dr. Denise M. Robinson via PIBE-Division <<a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6538">We need to teach braille to blind just as print to sighted--same time, same pace or faster if the kid is ready--jump in and just do it. <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6539"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6540">If TVIs used the exact same materials as the teachers teaching sighted, teaching those braille contractions as words are introduced JUST like the teachers are to the sighted, our blind students would keep pace with what is going on in the classroom</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6371"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6510"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6512"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6511"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Brush Script MT';COLOR:black;FONT-SIZE:18pt;"><font color="#4040ff"> Dr Denise </font></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6571"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Brush Script MT';COLOR:black;FONT-SIZE:18pt;"></span> <span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6574"> </span><span class="tab" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6573"> </span><span class="tab" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6572"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"> </span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"></span><span class="tab"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6577">Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. <br>CEO, TechVision, LLC<br><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6579">Specialist in technology, teaching, training for blind/low vision</span><br>423-573-6413<br><br>Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.yourtechvision.com/">www.yourtechvision.com </a><br><br>"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is<br> doing it." --<cite>Chinese Proverb</cite><br><br>Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond imagination.<br><cite>--Albert Einstein</cite><br><br>It's kind of fun to do the impossible.<br><cite>--Walt Disney</cite></div></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6580"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6586" style="display: block;"> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6585"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6584"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6583"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6582"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6581" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "Walker, Carlton via PIBE-Division" <<a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">pibe-division@nfbnet.org</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Walker, Carlton" <<a href="mailto:CWalker@nfb.org">CWalker@nfb.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 19, 2016 9:02 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Pibe-division] The term, pre-Braille<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6587"><br><div id="yiv5585918514"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1482156861648_6588">Regarding the term, pre-Braille:<br>
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While the origin of this term may have been honorable (referencing the tactile skills needed to read Brialle efficiently and effectively, I fear that this term is now widely being used to stunt students' progress in Braille.<br>
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"Pre-Braille" sounds like a big hurdle to overcome, however, it is simply part of the umbrella term, "pre-reading." Concepts of left and right, up and down, spaces indicating the end of words, etc. are common to both print and Braille users. Learning to recognize and differentiate text letters and to write them effectively is common is both print and Braille users. Principles of phonics and morphology are common to print and Braille users.<br>
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Regular educators do not use the term "pre-print;" they refer to this process is "pre-reading." To my mind, the term "pre-Braille" is segregationist. The term does nothing but separate Braille learners from their print peers. The term "pre-reader" is good enough for print learners, and it is applicable and useful for Braille learners. <br>
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Can someone please explain prebraille and why TVIs insist on prebraille before teaching braille? I have concerns about its use but want to better understand the reasoning.<br>
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