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<DIV>Hello Marianne,</DIV>
<DIV>I suggest that you look into the eBrailler. Even if the state won’t
purchase them you could work with local Lions and Rotary clubs to do so.</DIV>
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<DIV>The eBrailler has been designed especially with remote teaching in braille
as one of its uses.</DIV>
<DIV>You can read about it at the website</DIV>
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<DIV><CITE class=_Rm style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2"><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">www.ebrailler.com/</FONT></FONT></FONT></CITE></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt" color=#1a0dab><FONT
style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><FONT style="TEXT-DECORATION: none">eBrailler |
Manufacturers of the Cosmo Braille embosser and
"BERT.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>The eBrailler can also function as an
embosser so that the user can emboss their lessons for their reading
practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>The BERT is the remote programme which has
been designed so that the blind braille teacher in another location can monitor
what the student is doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>From what I’ve heard is is very successful
and the company is very responsive to feedback.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>Regarding the state refusing to send
students out-of-state for training, they are required to provide the student
with informed choice and, if the student can make a case for why the state
programme will not provide them with the training they have chosen to receive,
then the state is legally required, under federal law, to send them to the
programme of their choice.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>The case can usually be made by stipulating
that the student wants training in everything that the state programme doesn’t
provide.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>For example, a student can stipulate that
they want Structured Discovery Learning as their methods of instruction. They
can say that they want supervised engagement in strenuous, confidence-building
activities such as rock climbing, white water rafting or skiing. These are
provided at NFB centres but not usually at state programmes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>They can say that they want to attend a
programme where the majority of the instructors are blind so that they can be
encouraged by the competence and knowledge of other blind people. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>There are numerous other stipulations that
can be included.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>I must run and do prep for tomorrow’s
classes now but, if you would like me to send you the section of the law which
refers to this, as well as the kind of lists that our students have used with
Voc. Rehab. to gain out-of-state training at NFB centres, then let me know and
I’ll send the info to you later this week.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>Thank you so much for your efforts on behalf
of those folk whom you are working so hard to get proper vocational
training.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>Warmly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1a0dab face=Arial>Heather</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pibe-division@nfbnet.org
href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org">Marianne Denning via PIBE-Division</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 03, 2017 4:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pibe-division@nfbnet.org
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=marianne@denningweb.com
href="mailto:marianne@denningweb.com">Marianne Denning</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Braille instruction</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Thanks Eric. I have been doing research and have found a program
that was developed at Blind INC called Code Master. Has this Braille learning
product ever been published for purchase? I have contacted Blind INC. by phone
and e-mail and have not had any response. I think it definitely has some
potential for what we are trying to do. <BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Eric Guillory via
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>The
difficulties you are facing in the Buckeye State are a textbook reminder that
too many people, even the so-called professionals, see Braille as an isolated
skill (e.g., a martial art, a course in how to decorate cakes) rather than the
code that unlocks literacy for the blind. Ohio would never say that print
literacy isn’t necessary for all jobs or to live independently, but they get
away with that language because too many people seem to be possessed of the
notion that Braille proficiency and literacy can be separate entities—which
they are not…same as print. All the best as you strive to educate the
uninformed! Braille Rocks!<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Eric
Guillory, Director of Youth Services<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Louisiana
Center for the Blind<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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South Trenton Street<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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LA 71270<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<A href="tel:(800)%20234-4166" target=_blank
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<A href="tel:(318)%20251-0109" target=_blank
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> PIBE-Division
[mailto:<A href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division-bounces@<WBR>nfbnet.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Marianne Denning via PIBE-Division<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 3, 2017
2:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert Pardue<BR><B>Cc:</B> Marianne Denning;
Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Pibe-division] Braille instruction<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Robert, thanks for your thoughtful response. We have lots
of issues with VR in Ohio. One stumbling block is their assertion that braille
literacy is not needed for all jobs and it would only be part of a VR plan if
it were needed in a job. The NFB of Ohio believes that braille literacy is
important for living independently and that a person can't work if they can't
live independently. I also agree that an individual's ability to use
technology will be a consideration. Mentors are definitely a part of our
plans. <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Robert Pardue <<A
href="mailto:robertpardue@opsb.net"
target=_blank>robertpardue@opsb.net</A>> wrote:<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Is the
Ohio Vocational Rehabilitation Department mandated to provide training for
re-entering the workforce/independent living? I would look into what the law
REQUIRES the state to provide. If your members are entitled to training, but
training is not available in house, why not advocate for these adults to
attend a center outside of your state? The NFB adult training Centers were
created for this purpose. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>If that
is not an option, my thoughts are as follows: <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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I can see how virtual instruction could seem like a great idea. Have you
considered how tech savvy your students are? Would the visual impairments,
at this point in time, complicate access to the instruction? It would be
case by case. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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Another option could be something along the lines of descriptive audio
tracks with corresponding worksheets/<WBR>practice passages. Descriptions of
the braille shapes, patterns, dot locations and so on can be prerecorded
with appropriate practice materials, such as Building On Patterns (BOP),
Mangold, or Ashcroft curriculum. "Face-to-face" time with a mentor will
still be necessary to answer any questions or provide clarification, but as
a jumping point... <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.<WBR>org</A>> on behalf of
Marianne Denning via PIBE-Division <<A
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target=_blank>pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April
3, 2017 1:53:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Professionals in Blindness Education
Division List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Marianne Denning<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the information about Hadley. This is not a
solution for the people I am talking about. <U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Kristin Shumann via
PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>> wrote:<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Try Hadley School for the Blind in Winnetka
Illinois. I have a client taking a braille course from them
now. It is very thorough--spending the entire first course on
tracking and finger movement. It's either free or very reasonably
priced.<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:22 PM, marianne via
PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
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<P class=MsoNormal>NFB of Ohio is looking into ways to provide braille
instruction to adults who are losing vision. Our division of the blind
is not as supportive of the need for braille as we would like. I would
like to know about some inventive ideas for braille instruction. We are
looking at virtual instruction for braille with local volunteers for
support. That is just one idea but we are open to any other suggestions.
We do not have any kind of rehabilitation center in OH so that is not an
option. I am especially interested in providing instruction outside of
our metropolitan areas.<U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Script MT Bold"'>Marianne
Denning, TVI, MS</SPAN><U></U><U></U></P>
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