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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=919352714-04042017>I would also be interested in suggestions for teaching
braille to older students/adults. The prevailing attitude seems to be that
braille literacy is possible for just a few "special people" in this
population. I find it very frustrating when people graduate from our
program barely knowing the alphabet, much less anything
else.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=919352714-04042017>Looking forward to reading all suggestions and
tips.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=919352714-04042017>Pauline Smith, TVI</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=919352714-04042017>Braille Instructor</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> PIBE-Division
[mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Eric Guillory via
PIBE-Division<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 03, 2017 4:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Professionals in Blindness Education Division List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Eric
Guillory<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Braille
instruction<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>The
difficulties you are facing in the Buckeye State are a textbook reminder that
too many people, even the so-called professionals, see Braille as an isolated
skill (e.g., a martial art, a course in how to decorate cakes) rather than the
code that unlocks literacy for the blind. Ohio would never say that print
literacy isn’t necessary for all jobs or to live independently, but they get
away with that language because too many people seem to be possessed of the
notion that Braille proficiency and literacy can be separate entities—which they
are not…same as print. All the best as you strive to educate the uninformed!
Braille Rocks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Eric
Guillory, Director of Youth Services<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Louisiana
Center for the Blind<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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LA 71270<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Voice:
800-234-4166<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Fax:
318-251-0109<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>Twitter:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>“Together,
we are changing what it means to be blind.”</SPAN></B><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'> PIBE-Division
[mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Marianne Denning
via PIBE-Division<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 3, 2017 2:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Robert Pardue<BR><B>Cc:</B> Marianne Denning; Professionals in Blindness
Education Division List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division] Braille
instruction<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Robert, thanks for your thoughtful response. We have lots of
issues with VR in Ohio. One stumbling block is their assertion that braille
literacy is not needed for all jobs and it would only be part of a VR plan if it
were needed in a job. The NFB of Ohio believes that braille literacy is
important for living independently and that a person can't work if they can't
live independently. I also agree that an individual's ability to use technology
will be a consideration. Mentors are definitely a part of our plans.
<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Robert Pardue <<A
href="mailto:robertpardue@opsb.net" target=_blank>robertpardue@opsb.net</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Is the Ohio
Vocational Rehabilitation Department mandated to provide training for
re-entering the workforce/independent living? I would look into what the law
REQUIRES the state to provide. If your members are entitled to
training, but training is not available in house, why not advocate
for these adults to attend a center outside of your state? The NFB adult
training Centers were created for this purpose. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>If that is
not an option, my thoughts are as follows: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
I can see how virtual instruction could seem like a great idea.
Have you considered how tech savvy your students are? Would the visual
impairments, at this point in time, complicate access to the instruction? It
would be case by case. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
Another option could be something along the lines of
descriptive audio tracks with corresponding worksheets/practice passages.
Descriptions of the braille shapes, patterns, dot locations and so on can be
prerecorded with appropriate practice materials, such as Building On Patterns
(BOP), Mangold, or Ashcroft curriculum. "Face-to-face" time with a
mentor will still be necessary to answer any questions or provide
clarification, but as a jumping point... <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><STRONG><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">R. Martin Pardue, M.A.T. NCUEB
NOMC</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Teacher of Blind Students</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: red">OPSB </SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Palatino Linotype","serif"; COLOR: red'>Vision
Services</SPAN><SPAN
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Palatino Linotype","serif"; COLOR: black'>"If
I want to do it, nothing is difficult. If I don't want to do it, nothing is
easy.''</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Palatino Linotype","serif"; COLOR: black'>Sifu
Shi Yan Ming</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division-bounces@nfbnet.org</A>> on behalf of Marianne
Denning via PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April
3, 2017 1:53:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Professionals in Blindness Education Division
List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Marianne Denning<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Pibe-division]
Braille instruction</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks for the information about Hadley. This is not a
solution for the people I am talking about. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Kristin Shumann via
PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Try Hadley School for the Blind in Winnetka
Illinois. I have a client taking a braille course from them now.
It is very thorough--spending the entire first course on tracking and finger
movement. It's either free or very reasonably
priced.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:22 PM, marianne via
PIBE-Division <<A href="mailto:pibe-division@nfbnet.org"
target=_blank>pibe-division@nfbnet.org</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">NFB of Ohio
is looking into ways to provide braille instruction to adults who are
losing vision. Our division of the blind is not as supportive of the need
for braille as we would like. I would like to know about some inventive
ideas for braille instruction. We are looking at virtual instruction for
braille with local volunteers for support. That is just one idea but we
are open to any other suggestions. We do not have any kind of
rehabilitation center in OH so that is not an option. I am especially
interested in providing instruction outside of our metropolitan
areas.<o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Script MT Bold"'>Marianne Denning, TVI,
MS</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #888888">Marianne Denning, TVI,
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