[Quietcars] Quiet vehicle warning sounds

Mark J. Cadigan kramc11 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 03:07:48 UTC 2011


Bob,



Thank you for your help in locating this for me. This report is do December 
1, and I will gladly share a copy of it with you off list. I haven't taken a 
statistics coarse yet, however, I am just putting off the inevitable. Are 
you also in an engineering related field?



Thanks,

Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Wilson" <bwilson4web at hotmail.com>
To: <quietcars at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Quiet vehicle warning sounds


>
> The specific report is:
>
> http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NVS/Crash%20Avoidance/Technical%20Publications/2011/811496.pdf
>
> My comment on it was posted Oct. 10.
>
> I'm curious, when is your report due? Will you come back and share it 
> here?
>
> How far have you gone in your math studies? Any probability or statistics 
> yet?
>
> Bob Wilson
>
>> From: kramc11 at gmail.com
>> To: quietcars at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:14:42 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Quiet vehicle warning sounds
>>
>> Mr. Wilson,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several reports that I have downloaded from the NHTSA website and 
>> I
>> haven't finished reading all of them yet, however I don't think I have 
>> the
>> third report you mentioned. Would you happen to have the URL for the 
>> third
>> report? Also, do you know ware I can find any technical information about
>> the construction and implementation of these synthetic sound sources?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert Wilson" <bwilson4web at hotmail.com>
>> To: <quietcars at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Quietcars] Quiet vehicle warning sounds
>>
>>
>> > This year the NHTSA has issued at least three, downloadable reports. I
>> > don't have the URLs handy but they consists of:
>> >
>> > 1) April - survey of field study including blind subjects at an NHTSA
>> > leased, rurual site. This includes credible metrics on sound levels and
>> > characteristics.
>> >
>> > 2) August(?) - announcement of a call for environmental impact study
>> > comments which can be found in www.regulations.gov
>> >
>> > 3) September/October - preliminary NHTSA report indicating it should 
>> > sound
>> > 'sound like a car engine.'
>> >
>> > Between Google and the NHTSA web site search function, you should have 
>> > no
>> > problem finding these sources. One thing the NHTSA report speculated 
>> > about
>> > was it is likely the implementations wiil use a microprocessor and 
>> > speaker
>> > setup to replicate an 'automotive-like' noise.
>> >
>> > The final NHTSA requlations have yet to be issued so it is likely that 
>> > the
>> > early manufactures will implement software configurable, noise maker
>> > systems and wait for the final regulations to be issued. Technical 
>> > issues
>> > include the specific noise profile as well as the sound intensity map
>> > around the car.
>> >
>> > My understanding is the Prius wagon (called the Prius V) has an
>> > implementation. However, it and other implementations such as the Leaf,
>> > Volt, and Fisker may change to comply with the final regulations.
>> >
>> > Bob Wilson
>> >
>> >> From: kramc11 at gmail.com
>> >> To: quietcars at nfbnet.org
>> >> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:23:53 -0500
>> >> Subject: [Quietcars] Quiet vehicle warning sounds
>> >>
>> >> Hello fellow Federationists,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am working on researching quiet cars and their affect on blind
>> >> pedestrians for a research paper for my Engineering Design course. I 
>> >> am
>> >> looking for technical information on the synthetic sound sources
>> >> manufacturers have developed for quiet vehicles. I was hoping you 
>> >> could
>> >> direct me to some technical specifications about synthetic sound 
>> >> sources
>> >> for silent or nearly silent vehicles.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help,
>> >>
>> >> Mark J Cadigan
>> >>
>> >> Electrical Engineering Department
>> >>
>> >> Suffolk University
>> >>
>> >> mjcadigan at suffolk.edu
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