From gabias at telus.net Mon May 20 23:58:16 2024 From: gabias at telus.net (Mary Ellen) Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 16:58:16 -0700 Subject: [QuietCars] I need your help. Message-ID: <00b501daab11$959a1db0$c0ce5910$@telus.net> British Columbia is experimenting with bike lanes that have mid block bus stops. In order to reach the bus stop, pedestrians must cross the bike lane. Although some of them have pedestrian activated caution lights, there is no way for a blind person to tell whether a bike is passing. It's completely unsafe. I'm writing a resolution that expands on this topic (we passed a resolution dealing with some of this a few years ago.) Are any of you aware of similar designs in the US? It would help to have specific examples to make the resolution concrete. Canadian examples aren't applicable for a US resolution, but we know similar designs are being tried in many countries, so I doubt a US example would be hard to find. If you know of any kamikaze bike lanes in your area, please write me at gabias at telus.net to complete the proposed resolution. Mary Ellen From dandrews920 at comcast.net Tue May 21 01:15:52 2024 From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 20:15:52 -0500 Subject: [QuietCars] I need your help. In-Reply-To: <00b501daab11$959a1db0$c0ce5910$@telus.net> References: <00b501daab11$959a1db0$c0ce5910$@telus.net> Message-ID: <9E6csVIg0PbGe9E6dsQ1dk.1716254156.19defe116147f6efed23c059576ea3b0.MISSINGID@comcast.net> I have never seen one, but have read that they do exist, and are unsafe. Dave At 06:58 PM 5/20/2024, Mary Ellen via QuietCars wrote: >British Columbia is experimenting with bike lanes that have mid block bus >stops. In order to reach the bus stop, pedestrians must cross the bike >lane. Although some of them have pedestrian activated caution lights, there >is no way for a blind person to tell whether a bike is passing. It's >completely unsafe. > > > >I'm writing a resolution that expands on this topic (we passed a resolution >dealing with some of this a few years ago.) > > > >Are any of you aware of similar designs in the US? It would help to have >specific examples to make the resolution concrete. Canadian examples aren't >applicable for a US resolution, but we know similar designs are being tried >in many countries, so I doubt a US example would be hard to find. > > > >If you know of any kamikaze bike lanes in your area, please write me at >gabias at telus.net to complete the proposed >resolution. > > > > > >Mary Ellen > >