[rehab] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

[Tai Blas]

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Tai
 

-----Original Message-----
From: rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:51 AM
To: Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List
Subject: Re: [rehab] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

What is Nbpcb? RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lansaw,Jane (DARS)" <Jane.Lansaw at dars.state.tx.us>
To: "Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List" <rehab at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [rehab] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services


> Hi RJ,
> I wonder if you can use LCB's NBPCB certification as a justification.  
> I assume the Lighthouse isn't certified by NBPCB.  Dave can probably 
> answer this question or maybe Dick Davis if he's watching.  Also, RJ, 
> if you have any vision at all, even light perception you can cite 
> LCB's complete non-visual training as a method you respect and feel 
> you need to be fully employment-ready.
>
> I got my home state to send me to Colorado even though I had already 
> been through Lion's World several years previously.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Jane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of David Andrews
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:59 PM
> To: Rehabilitation Counselor Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [rehab] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and 
> DBS's policy concerning out of state services
>
> If they reopen your case, then you will end up with an employment 
> goal, and a plan to reach that goal.  You will have to show how LCB 
> will help you attain that goal, and why those resources available to 
> you in Florida will not do so.
>
> Dave
>
> At 07:01 PM 4/24/2010, you wrote:
>>Dear List, I'm thinking about re-opening my case with DBS, and I 
>>recieved this email from them, but I do not wish to recieve my 
>>ajustment to blindness training through the lighthouse. I wish to go 
>>to LCB. How can I justify this? RJ
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>To: RJ Sandefur
>>Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>>Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy 
>>concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>>Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your 
>>mother.
>>
>>If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can 
>>reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the 
>>Palm Beaches at this time for training.
>>
>>
>>
>>I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to 
>>help you in making your decision about training.
>>
>>
>>
>>I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because 
>>you attached it to your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>
>>In order to assist you with training services, please call our office 
>>and ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or 
>>866-225-0794.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>
>>District Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>----------
>>From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>>To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>>Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy 
>>concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>>Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for 
>>you concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy 
>>concerning out of state services. In 1999, I attended the 
>>rehabilitation center, which is now the orientation and adjustment 
>>center, and did not find the experience to be a pleasant one. In 2004, 
>>I closed my case with DBS, due to a disagreement with my councilor at 
>>the time. However, due to having recently lost my mother, and other 
>>factors, I believe I am in need of some adjustment to blindness 
>>training, and this training should be conducted at the Louisiana 
>>center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at the DBS web sight and 
>>came across the policy concerning out of state services:
>>Out of State Services
>>DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>
>>SUBJECT
>>Out of State Services
>>
>>EFFECTIVE DATE
>>July 9, 2003
>>
>>REVISION DATE
>>February 14, 2008
>>
>>EXPIRATION DATE
>>This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>
>>PURPOSE
>>
>>To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>
>>AUTHORITY
>>34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>
>>POLICY
>>The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference 
>>for in-State services, provided that the preference does not 
>>effectively deny an individual a necessary service. If the individual 
>>chooses an out-of-State service at a higher cost than an in-State 
>>service, and either service would meet the individual's rehabilitation 
>>needs, the designated State unit is not responsible for those costs in 
>>excess of the cost of the in-State service.
>>However, if the out-of-state services provides a unique service to 
>>meet the individual's rehabilitation plan, the Bureau Chief should be 
>>contacted to approve or disapproval such a service.
>>
>>Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 
>>But compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 
>>in RSA PD-01-03:
>>
>>
>>       POLICY STATEMENT:  The State VR program must provide applicants 
>>and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to 
>>exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making 
>>decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers, 
>>settings for employment and service provision, and methods for 
>>procuring services.  To enable an individual to make such decisions, 
>>the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance 
>>needed by the individual.  The VR agency has the responsibility to 
>>implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop 
>>resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR 
>>services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process; 
>>these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with 
>>Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this 
>>mean, that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend 
>>LCB, due to causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with 
>>DBS, since the previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, 
>>I've attached a document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure 
>>you know who they are. Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish 
>>to get my facts so that I'll be able to have enough information in 
>>order to make an informed choice as to where to go from here. I did 
>>study with a Seminary, and obtain my master of theology, in 2006, and 
>>I was licensed by my church to preach in 2005. It was tough loosing 
>>Mom, and I know, she'd want me to continue doing what I believe the 
>>Lord has called me to do. However, How am I going to be an effective 
>>minister, if I don't have the blindness training, needed to sirvive? 
>>Another concern I have, is I have learned some ministers start out as 
>>by-vocational. In 2004, until now, I didn't see that aspect of it. I 
>>have a batchors degree in criminal justice. Another not so wise 
>>disision on my part. Mrs.
>>Davis, I look forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert Sandefur
>
>
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