[rehab] question for the list

[justin williams]

Lol; that's funny.  I can't see a keyboard, so it would matter ot me.

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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Davis
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:05 PM
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Our communications instructors switch all the keys on our student keyboards.
It drives the peekers crazy and makes them want to shut their eyes.  If they
do it visually, they end up with complete garbage.  Try it!
Dick

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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:35 PM
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Check the Louisiana training center  for the blind; they may have some
studies.  Half immersion tactics such as training with the computer screen
off, and the mouse unplugged are good.  Also, taping a cloth or something to
cover the keyboard in place so that they can slide their  hands under, but
are not able to look att the keyboard.
If you don't have time for getting rid of the nervousness of blindfolds and
the complete inability to see, short cuts are necessary.  Accept in
mobility.  If you don't train with blindfolds, you won't train the student
right, and that could cause them injury.

-----Original Message-----
From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lansaw,Jane
(DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 3:27 PM
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Amen to walking the walk.  When I was in Nebraska immersion was 3 months
flat for everyone.  Still, I'd like to find some data.  When I was majoring
in English Education, we did a lot of reading and writing.  Much of it in
the  Ed department was children's lit and teen lit because we were aiming
for certification in 9-12.  Looked like immersion to me.  I need to sell it
though and need more data than, the cool kids are doing it.  You and I both
know why it's a good idea but umbrella agencies are often lead by people
outside blindness and/or education.  I'll keep digging and watching the
lists in case someone comes up with a publication I can wave around.

Yours on the barricades,

Jane


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From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dick Davis
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:12 PM
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Jane,
I don't know of anyone who collects such data; maybe Dr. Bell?  At BLIND,
Inc., we require new hires to go through three months of training.  I am
sure the same is the case in Louisiana and Colorado.  New Mexico requires
either two or three months. Nebraska is either three or six months, I
forget.  Iowa has training too.   I am sure BISM has a similar
requirement.  Hawaii does for sure.  It seems like those centers that have
such a requirement also do the best work.  That is kind of a no brainer,
because staff immersion training provides a knowledge base, an attitude
base, and a confidence base, all of which a person needs to work effectively
with blind people.  As far as I can tell, blindness rehabilitation is the
only field that questions such fundamental career preparation, and it shows
in the kind of services (or lack thereof) that blind people get.  If you
can't walk the walk, you won't be able to talk the talk, at least not
convincingly.
Dick Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: rehab [mailto:rehab-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lansaw,Jane
(DARS)
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 1:09 PM
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Hi folks,

I'm looking for some data because I'm curious.  I know a lot of training
centers immerse staff in non-visual training for a time when they are newly
hired.  I know why I think this is a good idea but I'd like to hear from
others.  Why is this a good idea?  Is there any data out there to support
the fact?

Thank you,

Jane Lansaw


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