[rehab] Input on a scenario.

Marks, Jim jimmarks at mt.gov
Thu Jun 18 22:40:55 UTC 2015


In Section 102, the part of WIOA that speaks to eligibility, it says:

"(B) requires vocational rehabilitation services to prepare for, secure, retain, or regain employment advance in, or regain employment that is consistent with the individual's strengths, resources, priorities, concerns, abilities, capabilities, interests, and informed choice ."

As Dick mentioned earlier, VR services have been able to serve those who want to advance employment for many years.  I think it was the 92 amendments that introduced career advancement as a reason for VR services.  WIOA strengthens the concept even more strongly.  Without a doubt, VR can and should serve those who want to advance in employment and who meet other qualifications.

Best!



Jim Marks
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I did some checking, but have been out of the VR state agency system for
15 years, and cannot find useful language for you, but others probably can.
Dick Davis

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I have a friend who is in the same position; can you send me soemthing on that so I can help her?

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Jim is correct.  The original law used the words, "obtain, retain, and advance in employment", so it is not a WIOA change at all.  One of the new WIOA measurements is how many people were enrolled in college as a way to advance themselves in employment.  Or some wording like that.  So providing services for career advancement is perfectly legal.  And I was a state agency director too, so that makes two of us.
Dick Davis

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Career advancement is well within the scope of WIOA.  I would focus on the vocational goal, establishing a link between the goal and the services it would take to achieve that goal.  My guess is that it all fits nicely within WIOA.  Thing is, the vocational goal is what drives everything, and the goal is the client's to set after we've provided information for the decision.
We don't get to justify or rationalize the goal as professionals.  The client gets to make that decision.  The professional guides, not decides.
>From there, it's just a matter of linking the service to the client's goal.
Depending on the details in the situation, I would proceed with the career advancement.




Jim Marks
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Here is the scenario on which I would like some input.

A little background.  I work for an agency for the blind, and we have a scenario, not a lot of info, but will give you what I know.

A blind person comes to us, asking for assistance.  This person is currently working in a professional field.  The person is approaching us, as he would like to further his education by finishing his B.A. and obtaining a MS degree.  He has been accepted at a private university, and is asking the agency for assistance in being able to attend.  He is staying in the same field.

Question:  For those of you working in an agency for the blind, if you are able to help persons in similar situations, how is it done?  There has been a conversation with him regarding under-employment, but I do not have any details about that conversation.

I am inclined to think that we may not be able to help him, as, he is already employed, but wants to have help in paying for his Masters at this private college, so he can upgrade his employability.

Any discussion and ideas are appreciated.

Judy
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