[Small-Appliance-Cooking] Resolution or accessible appliances

[Jessica Hodges]

Technology is changing every day. touch screens are a huge thing right 
now everywhere, not just in a appliances. We are, whether we like it or 
not, a minority. Should we advocate for the accessibility of things? 
Absolutely! But it is not an active, intentional shut out on the part of 
companies. nobody can cater to everyone, and there are ways to make a 
lot of things work. That doesn't mean that we should stay silent, but 
nor, I think, would a resolution be helpful. Hope this makes some 
semblance of sense.


Jessica.




On 4/12/2018 7:40 AM, Lighthouse via Small-Appliance-Cooking wrote:
> I pretty much agree. I think it is unrealistic to expect manufacturers to
> consider accessibility. It is our job as consumers to find a way to use
> specific devices. I use a pressure cooker that has raised circle pressure
> pads, an electric frying pan that has applied high markings, a microwave
> that I saught out with buttons, and so on. The manufacturer doesn't, in my
> opinion, owe us accessibility. On the other hand, it is great when I find
> something that can be adapted or is by some quirk already accessible. When
> something like a microwave is made accessible by talking for instance, it
> costs twice what other people pay for a small appliance with the same
> features. I would rather see how I can make an appliance usable through
> creativity and asking for suggestions from people that have already worked
> it out. By the way, isn't that the main purpose of this list?
>
>
> Bernice and the adorable LoLO.
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> I would not want a specific device not to be mentioned on this list due to
> the moral injustice one may feel.  If it helps me in the kitchen, then I
> want to know about it.  make another list for offensive statements in the
> manuals for devices and the disabled.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of David Andrews via Small-Appliance-Cooking
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:06 PM
> To: Cooking with Small Appliances <small-appliance-cooking at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Small-Appliance-Cooking] Resolution or accessible appliances
>
> I understand, and live your frustration, but while I am not a lawyer, I
> don't think there is a legal hook to hang your hat on, in this arena.  That
> doesn't mean that we shouldn't do a resolution -- but to who. The Consumer
> Technology Association is starting to pay a little attention to
> accessibility -- but still has a long way to go. There may be appliance
> groups -- I don't know.
>
> Dave
>
> At 06:58 PM 4/11/2018, you wrote:
>> I understand that this list is sponsored by the crafters division. I
>> believe that we need a resolution to address the large number of an
>> accessible appliances that are excluding blind people. If an
>> accessible websites the violate the ADA, some of these appliance
>> manufacturers should be taken to task as well. They are going above
>> and beyond to exclude blind people by creating an accessible touch
>> screens that are impossible to label because the menus change. I was
>> trying to get a new coffee maker, and it was very hard to find one
>> with buttons. Smart appliances are also great, but blind people
>> should not be forced to use them to make up for lack of
>> accessibility. We are paying customers and we deserve to be able to
>> buy appliances that we can use. We do not deserve to get shut out of
>> all of these new appliances, and we do not deserve companies that go
>> so far as to put in their instructions manual that we should not use
>> their products. This is wrong because it is discriminatory, and if a
>> blind person is using a product, and that product actually is
>> defective, unsafe, or has a problem, the company can try to get out
>> of it by saying that a blind person should not have been using it in
>> the first place according to their manual. I do not know how to
>> write a resolution or I would do it. I don't even know what
>> resolution would help. And we will also have to frame the resolution
>> in such a way that other blind people won't take away focus from it
>> by saying that we are entitled for wanting access to smart
>> appliances like they did with the Apple resolution. What do you all think?
>>
>> Sabra Ewing
>
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